Off Topic General Election Special
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According to Nicola Sturgeon May is going to regret calling the election. We find out tomorrow.
Are you going to list how May, Bozo etc voted?
Was interesting to see Bozo criticise Corbyn for the way he voted to then be told he voted the same way
Are you going to list how May, Bozo etc voted?
Was interesting to see Bozo criticise Corbyn for the way he voted to then be told he voted the same way
Yes, well, err, you know, certain things change err.
I actually like Boris.
Heh. I'm the opposite. I don't agree with him on the terror stuff and while pacifism is ideal, I'm not sure that you can always avoid conflict. But obviously I'm voting for him. Personally I don't think his views on this stuff will be that influential. Most people will want more to be done to prevent attacks and I think it'll happen whoever is in government.
My kids are privately educated.
That's 2 less children in the state system. A system that, unfortunately, was failing my eldest to the point where something drastic had to be done. Hence why he was taken out of mainstream eduction and sent private. I couldn't be happier with how he has progressed and flourished, not only educationally but as a young man.
I have made real sacrifices ( I'm not going into detail) to pay for their education and graft hard, my other half works even harder. The hours we both work are ridiculous.
Nothing has been handed to either of us on a plate.
We already pay a lot of tax but under Corbyn we'd have to find another £4000 per year, **** knows where that would come from.
Most of the parents I know, which is quite a lot, are in the same boat.
Not rich, not wealthy but have made the massive financial commitment and huge personal sacrifice to send their kids to a private school.
Never mind all that I'll fork out another £4000 a year, apparently I can afford it.
That's 2 less children in the state system. A system that, unfortunately, was failing my eldest to the point where something drastic had to be done. Hence why he was taken out of mainstream eduction and sent private. I couldn't be happier with how he has progressed and flourished, not only educationally but as a young man.
I have made real sacrifices ( I'm not going into detail) to pay for their education and graft hard, my other half works even harder. The hours we both work are ridiculous.
Nothing has been handed to either of us on a plate.
We already pay a lot of tax but under Corbyn we'd have to find another £4000 per year, **** knows where that would come from.
Most of the parents I know, which is quite a lot, are in the same boat.
Not rich, not wealthy but have made the massive financial commitment and huge personal sacrifice to send their kids to a private school.
Never mind all that I'll fork out another £4000 a year, apparently I can afford it.
But 'Austerity' has the nation bleeding to death.
Is that £4k in VAT on the private school fees?
Do you really think they should be VAT exempt while basic food and clothing aren't?
It will have to happen at some point. If not now then in 10, 20, 30 years when the budget is even bigger and more people have to suffer.
Better to get things under control sooner rather then later wouldn't you say? Or maybe we can just pass the problems on to the next generations, **** them it's not our problem.
Thanks, I just wasn't sure if you meant income tax or VAT on the school fees at first.
I can't understand an argument where these fees should be VAT exempt. It's not additional VAT, it's the introduction of any at all. It can't be right that every adult pays VAT for stuff like food and clothing which are obviously essentials rather than luxuries while the very top percent get an exemption for their private school fees, an option which isn't available to most people no matter how hard they work. The very definition of a luxury. The exorbitant fees are down to the schools, and if they choose to pass on the VAT to you that's also down to them.
I know you've admitted you'll vote for what's best for you which is your choice, but I can't see how anyone could morally have an issue with the introduction of VAT on private school fees.
With respect, if only just being able to afford private school fees is your plight, then there are people far worse off and in far more unjust circumstances than you thanks to austerity.
I'll chime in here, my 5 year old daughter is in a packed out EYFS class. 31 kids with one teacher. The next class will be the same. How many more will be squeezed in after VAT is charged on all private school fees?
I can see the sense in charging VAT on someone like Ehab sending his children to a school with stables, horse jumping tracks, a croquet course and a polo pitch. It's ridiculous to charge it to those just comfortable families who have worked very hard and made a lot of sacrifices to give their children the best possible chance. Because let's not forget, private schools are better. They consistently pull better grades, almost always have better facilities and a lot of them offer subjects/courses that state schools just don't.
They are not an evil, and attacking them is just spiteful.
People paying to send their kids to public schools remove the burden on state schools (while still paying for those state schools).
People paying for private health care remove the burden on the NHS (while still paying for the NHS).
Penalising people for doing this would be a remarkably stupid thing to do, particularly as many can barely afford them as it is.
Particularly if they were also having to take an income tax hit as well.
Am I missing something here?
VAT is paid on all luxuries, supposedly. How can it possibly be even considered that private school fees, of all things, should be VAT exempt. It's pretty much the best example of a luxury that only a select few can afford. Clothes aren't VAT exempt. Try and justify how everyone should pay VAT for clothes but not private school fees. The mere suggestion is just utterly baffling.
I get why these schools are good. I've done a bit of work in the ones round here and seen how nice they are. But they're as luxury as luxury gets. They should be one of the very first things to charge VAT on.
So Labour's tax rises according to the Manifesto are not going to raise that much money? McDonnell and Corbyn must be right when they say their tax proposals are moderate, and people earning over £80,000 will be asked to pay a little extra.
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