Off Topic General Election Special

[Spook]

Ahh there again. The politics of envy.

Not envy, I just don't care if you have to pay more tax if you make at least £80,000.

 

[Edelman]

In that case it appears that you're the brainwashed one.

Nah he just spouts utter ****e to get attention.
****ing ISIS.. what a ****ing comment to come out with in the current climate.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Cool, can we opt out of contributing to the military budget?

No, but you could pay more tax and help finance it further if you wish?

Or actually, yes you could. Go set up a bank account in Bermuda and 'live' over there.

 

[Carmine Galante.]

My father in law is a proper union man, labour all his life and a self proclaimed socialist. Said he wouldn't let me in his house if I ever voted conservative.

Left school unable to read or write.

Cut a long story short he educated himself, grafted hard and ended up doing really well.

Lives in a big, **** off house and buys a new £50,000 motor every 2 years. Spends loads of time abroad and wears nice clobber.

If he was that much of a socialist surely he'd live in a smaller house,drive a modest car and buy his clothes from Primark,the money saved he could gift to the poor and less fortunate.

Help out his working class brothers and sisters and all that.

Nowt wrong with his lifestyle, he's worked hard to get where he has but don't tell me he's a socialist, living in the lap of luxury.

He's a capitalist playing at it.

I dare say he's not alone.

 

[Spook]

No, but you could pay more tax and help finance it further if you wish?

Or actually, yes you could. Go set up a bank account in Bermuda and 'live' over there.

I'd rather we abolish all taxes and just let workers own factories, land and resources. No CEOs, no owners, no bosses.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Unless you earn more than £80,000, in which case, I have no sympathy for you if you have to pay more tax.

You're joking aren't you?

Have you tried getting by on just £80k a year?

It's nigh on impossible.

 

[Leon...]

You're right, it isn't.

You sound bitter about people who earn success.

I sound bitter? The old jealousy routine.

You're the one ranting about possibly paying a few quid extra for the good of the nation.

As I said, I'm happy to pay more tax.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Nah he just spouts utter ****e to get attention.
****ing ISIS.. what a ****ing comment to come out with in the current climate.

He posted hate speech. Just because it's not Islamist doesn't excuse it or make it better.

Hate is hate, grooming is grooming. Unless you think public preaching of these hateful ideologies is acceptable?

 

[Spook]

You're joking aren't you?

Have you tried getting by on just £80k a year?

It's nigh on impossible.

Are you for real? My mum looks after my sister on her own on a salary less than £25k a year (just barely) and you're telling me £80,000 is hard to live off?

****ing Tories don't live in the real world.

 

[Leon...]

Until tomorrow folks:

The people's flag is deepest red...

 

[originallambrettaman]

Are you for real? My mum looks after my sister on her own on a salary less than £25k a year (just barely) and you're telling me £80,000 is hard to live off?

 

[Edelman]

He posted hate speech. Just because it's not Islamist doesn't excuse it or make it better.

Hate is hate, grooming is grooming. Unless you think public preaching of these hateful ideologies is acceptable?

There's a big difference when USIS and Jihadists are being brought into it though.

 

[Off The Line]

Nah he just spouts utter ****e to get attention.
****ing ISIS.. what a ****ing comment to come out with in the current climate.

I refuse to rise to it.

 

[Amin Arrears]

There's a big difference when USIS and Jihadists are being brought into it though.

Why? It's political hatred, it is no different what so ever.

Unless you're one of those EDL buffoons.

 

[Spook]

You can try playing that off as sarcasm but judging by your previous posts, there's no reason to think you're anything but a greedy Tory **** who'd genuinely believe that.

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

Interesting though that Labour's campaign has been up and down the country meeting ordinary people in ordinary places.

Can you imagine May coming to Zebedees Yard for instance like Corbyn did the other week?

Corbyn barely has any security staff with him at all.

Why the hell would a Tory want to come to Hull? The three Hull seats are hardly marginal ....UKIP have more chance of winning here than the Tories, therefore waste of time coming here...

 

[originallambrettaman]

'If you’ve already decided you’re voting Tory, I assume you don’t have any qualms over your choice.

But, if by some chance you’re still on the fence over who to vote, please consider:

If you vote Tory, you can basically kiss goodbye to the NHS before the 2022 general election. The name will remain, the Tories know they can’t kill it as a brand, but it will be a picked-clean skeleton of the already emaciated figure we're left with now after seven years of Conservative rule. Leaks have already suggested there'll be a new raft of cuts, undocumented in the Tory manifesto, announced in the weeks and months after a victory. More services slashed, more waiting lists lengthened, more completely avoidable deaths. All with the express intent of privatising every profitable avenue of public healthcare for the benefit of a few tax-fiddling shareholders, hiding the profits of illness and misery in offshore accounts. If you don’t suffer first-hand, your kids and their kids certainly will.

If you vote Tory, you’re actively further crippling education in the UK. Schools are facing a funding crisis, literally begging parents to pay for the most basic stuff *like pencils* because they don’t have anything near adequate resources. Teachers are leaving the profession in droves, pushed to breaking point by overwork and constant, disgusting demonization by successive education secretaries. Children are going hungry as in-work poverty soars and parents struggle to support families on precarious zero-hours contracts, and the Conservatives’ winning solution is to allot the princely sum of SEVEN PENCE for every child's school breakfast. That’s less than quarter of a Freddo ffs.
If you vote Tory, you’re endorsing the systematic killing of disabled people through state neglect. With every passing week more and more people are having the most threadbare funding stripped, with crucial care, mobility and adapted housing being snatched from them to appease a warped ideology. People are excluded from society, forced to live in inhumane conditions, or simply hounded into bullshit, insult-pay jobs then dying after being repeatedly certified by doctors as not fit to work. The United Nations – THE UNITED NATIONS – has said that UK austerity policy (a complete economic disaster, but that’s beside the point) constitutes *a breach of human rights*.

But that’s okay, because if you vote Tory, Theresa May has promised she’ll scrap human rights all together. She’s been trying to do this for years, waiting for the right justification, and her appalling, openly racist, death-strewn record as Home Secretary is just a taster of her ambitions. All the soap in every Lush across the country couldn’t wash the blood off her hands. Scrapping human rights legislation is an unimaginably terrifying move to make, threatening everyone in British society, privacy and tolerance be damned. Amnesty International immediately branded her “reckless and misinformed.” As we hurtle towards Brexit, The Good Friday agreement, relying on the lynchpin of the European Convention of Human Rights, would be rendered invalid.

If you vote Tory, you’ll be guaranteed a leader unafraid to start a full-scale thermonuclear war which will irrecoverably decimate life, all as a “deterrent”. Not to get all Kermit-drinking-the-tea, but it’s pretty wild one of the Conservatives’ major campaign criticisms of Corbyn is that he is unable to “protect the safety of the country,” primarily because he won’t condemn everyone in it to die in nuclear fire, all the while having three major terrorist attacks take place in under four months on their watch.

The other big criticism of Corbyn is that he's unable to handle spending, the Tories quick to forget they enabled the biggest act of economic self-sabotage in living memory – Brexit – all because of a foolhardy gamble gone wrong and the rampant careerism of some of the most repulsive chronic liars to stalk the political landscape. One of whom, Boris Johnson, you can bet decent money on unsurping May as Prime Minister if you vote Tory. And please, please don’t fall for the line that you’ll pay more income tax under a Labour government, the only chance of this happening is if you earn £80,000 or more, putting you comfortably among the top-earners in the UK – in which case frankly you *should* be paying more. Labour also has a fully-costed spending manifesto, publicly backed this week by an open letter from 129 economists and experts across the world. The Conservatives, meanwhile, remain deliberately murky on figures and embarrassingly U-turn on major, campaign-hinging promises days after announcing them.

But if you vote Tory, at least you can go fox hunting with the full blessing of the state again, so knock yourself out I guess.

Please vote Labour'.

Stopped reading after that first bit of nonsense.

 

[DMD]

You're joking aren't you?

Have you tried getting by on just £80k a year?

It's nigh on impossible.

At least you poor people get to keep each other company in the food bank queue while the rest of us are keeping cuban tobacco plantation workers and grape treaders in Verzenay in employment.

 

[Amin Arrears]

How about those that wish to help the poor donate money to the various excellent charities around, and those who wish to keep their money for themselves are free to do so?

There is literally nothing stopping you from helping he disadvantaged if you feel so inclined. Why not just donate the difference in tax which you feel you should be paying?

I've asked this question to those advocating tax increases twice today and not had an answer.

Maybe there's more to it under the surface...

The thick plottens.

 

[Carmine Galante.]

Are you for real? My mum looks after my sister on her own on a salary less than £25k a year (just barely) and you're telling me £80,000 is hard to live off?

****ing Tories don't live in the real world.

Jesus wept.

Really?