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I can never trust labour after they decimated the countryside in their last term in power
 
Yes, just me and the other fifty or so who spell realize how their mobile phone spells it.

Mackem-tiz
Essayefcee
Comfy
Hefty Fullback
Monkey69
Smug In Boots (I'd stop reading now out of embarrassment, but there's more)
Oliver's Army
Billy Batts
Sheepman
Alcouath
Mackemstine Roger
Ozzymac
Evil Jimmy Krankies
Rooch
Dred
Gil T Azell

Is anyone not Exile? Is it just me and him on here?
They are all Smugs alter egos ;-)
 
Always have and always will expect the tories to have their snout in the trough but I expect ( delusional dream) that labour mp’s and the so called “working class hero’s” would be above all this crap
Don’t get me wrong I applaud and admire people who make it in life from humble beginnings but don’t be embarrassed and uneasy with your new found wealth and preach and criticise others for doing the same
She’s a leech like the rest of them

Is any wealth unacceptable for a politician?

Do you see donations and gifts as equally as bad?

I suspect you'll have a hard time voting for anyone based on that standard, as much as I admire your stance.
 
Is any wealth unacceptable for a politician?

Do you see donations and gifts as equally as bad?

I suspect you'll have a hard time voting for anyone based on that standard, as much as I admire your stance.
No,wealth is acceptable for everyone,good luck, just don’t preach and contradict
Aye I do have a hard time voting,as I’ve stated earlier i compare mps with Dennis Skinner, admit it is harsh but there you go :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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I can never trust labour after they decimated the countryside in their last term in power
But the NHS, social care, mental health funding, care in the community, high tax burden, state pension age, social housing, welfare state, national debt, budget deficit, inflation, economic growth trend rate, investment, wage growth, net migration, GDP per capita, emergency services and food banks are acceptable?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...mic-record-budget-deficit-gdp-tax-tory-budget
 
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No,wealth is acceptable for everyone,good luck, just don’t preach and contradict
Aye I do have a hard time voting,as I’ve stated earlier i compare mps with Dennis Skinner, admit it is harsh but there you go :emoticon-0148-yes:
I do get where you are coming from and in the back of my mind I probably agree with you, but Rayners earnings are declared in the Register of Members' Financial Interests and are therefore deemed to be above board.
 
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I do get where you are coming from and in the back of my mind I probably agree with you, but Rayners earnings are declared in the Register of Members' Financial Interests and are therefore deemed to be above board.
Aye all above board mate no problem, but haway an extra £400,000 on top of your £91,000 salary, taking the piss surely
 
I do get where you are coming from and in the back of my mind I probably agree with you, but Rayners earnings are declared in the Register of Members' Financial Interests and are therefore deemed to be above board.
That’s the website from the figures,sorry not to be able to provide the link,can you remove that pinch of salt now <laugh>
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Aye all above board mate no problem, but haway an extra £400,000 on top of your £91,000 salary, taking the piss surely
Where has the £400,000 came from? you posted £300,700 yesterday and I still haven't seen any context or confirmation of that figure.
https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/23218195.oldham-mps-earned-top-salaries-2022/
I can understand the figure if it is the total gifts and extra income since she was elected in 2014, which according to the Register of Members' Financial Interests, includes her staff.
 
That’s the website from the figures,sorry not to be able to provide the link,can you remove that pinch of salt now <laugh>
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No because your post has no context and I use the Register of Members' Financial Interests for my information, you should probably try that instead of being influenced by Sky's interpretation <laugh>

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I've just had a look at your source, it covers the period of this parliament, 2019 - 2024 and claims that the value of her declarations is 'approximately' £432,200, this figure includes estimates of the value of the benefits (estimates are not factual). In addition, the people she employs and their salaries are included in the total figure.
Looking at things in context paints a completely different picture than selecting headlines.
 
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Where has the £400,000 came from? you posted £300,700 yesterday and I still haven't seen any context or confirmation of that figure.
https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/23218195.oldham-mps-earned-top-salaries-2022/
I can understand the figure if it is the total gifts and extra income since she was elected in 2014, which according to the Register of Members' Financial Interests, includes her staff.
££400,000 is for the latest update of figures,do you think it’s excessive?
 
But the NHS, social care, mental health funding, care in the community, high tax burden, state pension age, social housing, welfare state, national debt, budget deficit, inflation, economic growth trend rate, investment, wage growth, net migration, GDP per capita, emergency services and food banks are acceptable?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...mic-record-budget-deficit-gdp-tax-tory-budget
Most of them problems are caused by Blair and Labour BTW. You seem to forget Labours winter of discontent where the NHS nearly collapsed, Blairs Public Private Partnerships which to this day take up 30% of some hospitals budgets, Blair opening the floodgates to huge levels of immigration, Brown selling most of the UKs gold for a 10th of the price its at today costing the UK over 100 billion, Brown left huge budget deficits which led to austerity, Blairs illegal war in Iraq which murdered thousands of innocent people, Blair shut more mines than Thatcher, the creation of hundreds of non degrees such as golf management costing people thousands in debt, the hunting act which has left the fox population decimated, Blair oversaw a collapse in industry where output fell 3% over the Labour government which cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and I could go on and on
 
Most of them problems are caused by Blair and Labour BTW. You seem to forget Labours winter of discontent where the NHS nearly collapsed, Blairs Public Private Partnerships which to this day take up 30% of some hospitals budgets, Blair opening the floodgates to huge levels of immigration, Brown selling most of the UKs gold for a 10th of the price its at today costing the UK over 100 billion, Brown left huge budget deficits which led to austerity, Blairs illegal war in Iraq which murdered thousands of innocent people, Blair shut more mines than Thatcher, the creation of hundreds of non degrees such as golf management costing people thousands in debt, the hunting act which has left the fox population decimated, Blair oversaw a collapse in industry where output fell 3% over the Labour government which cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and I could go on and on
Not doubting you mate,but is that correct?
 
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Most of them problems are caused by Blair and Labour BTW. You seem to forget Labours winter of discontent where the NHS nearly collapsed, Blairs Public Private Partnerships which to this day take up 30% of some hospitals budgets, Blair opening the floodgates to huge levels of immigration, Brown selling most of the UKs gold for a 10th of the price its at today costing the UK over 100 billion, Brown left huge budget deficits which led to austerity, Blairs illegal war in Iraq which murdered thousands of innocent people, Blair shut more mines than Thatcher, the creation of hundreds of non degrees such as golf management costing people thousands in debt, the hunting act which has left the fox population decimated, Blair oversaw a collapse in industry where output fell 3% over the Labour government which cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and I could go on and on
Rubbish
 
££400,000 is for the latest update of figures,do you think it’s excessive?
To begin with, it's an estimate by Sky, they tell you that in their article, and in context over 5 years paying staff wages etc. No I don't think it is excessive