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General Election 4th July ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, May 22, 2024.

  1. Washysafc

    Washysafc Well-Known Member

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  2. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    I’d shag her like!! :emoticon-0169-dance:emoticon-0169-dance:emoticon-0169-dance

    Bart
     
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  3. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    To these posh bastards, the nose in the trough is just the way it's always been. They probably don't even consciously realize they're doing it. It's just favours for your mates, a continuation of school.

    When you've come from where we have, you've essentially thrown in with the enemy to make a few quid for yourself and balls to any principles.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    When you're being a coward, and trying to hide who you are Exile, you should use better camouflage <laugh>

    https://www.not606.com/search/125922760/?q=realize&o=relevance&c[node]=26
     
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  5. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    You're on there more than anyone else ...

    ... you can run but you can't hide <laugh>

    Everyone knew you wouldn't be able to keep off this thread, despite pretending to be interested in football for a while.
     
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  7. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    String shares just went up again.
     
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  8. Snaggey

    Snaggey Well-Known Member

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    First of all, apologies for the long post...just something I wanted to share.

    My Father in Law was very much into politics was quite close to Tony Benn, a man he admired greatly.
    Tony Benn has spoke at the Durham Miners Gala more than 20 times, the most anyone has appeared there.
    In March 2014, my F.I.L was in the Freeman, and I had to tell him that one of his friends, Bob Crow ( R.M.T Union) had died. Then, couple of days later, tell him that Tony Benn had died. He was gutted.
    "Bloody hell, that's two good-uns in a couple of days" he said.
    Couple of days later, my F.I.L. sadly passed away.

    This is taken from Hansard, a screenshot, but we did get the full transcript sent to us in paper form.
    The ex miner, Stan Pearce, was my Father in Law.

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  9. Nig

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    Bullshit
     
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  10. Nig

    Nig Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    'So Rishi, roll your shirt sleeves up, pretend you like a pint and give it your best 'one of the lads' performance <laugh>

     
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  12. vic9

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    The value of Ms Rayner’s interests puts her in the top 4 per cent of all MPs. Since the start of the current parliament, only 23 members have taken in more money than this MP.
    Apologies she’s only in the top 4% now

    The average MP has received about £24,680worth of donations, gifts and other payments and benefits. Stephen Crabb, the member of parliament for Preseli Pembrokeshire, is statistically-speaking the closest to that average.

    Former prime minister and former member of parliament for Uxbridge and South Ruislip Boris Johnson has declared almost £6.4 million worth of donations, secondary earnings, and other benefits – more than any of his colleagues.

    The other part of this system is the sources – the donors, the secondary employers, the places and people the donations, services, gifts, benefits and other payments are coming from.

    Some sources give large amounts of money to just one political party and its MPs. Donations from Unite, the UK’s largest trade union, make up about 19 per cent of all of Labour'sdonations.

    The largest source of services, donations, gifts, benefits and other payments for many APPGs is Policy Connect, a think tank which explicitly specialises in providing parliamentary groups with secretariats. Since the end of 2019, it has provided 10 different APPGs around £2.6 million worth of services.

    Ms Rayner’s biggest source of donations, earnings, gifts and other benefits is Lord Waheed Alli.

    During the current parliament, this source has also provided services, donations, gifts, benefits or other payments totalling the equivalent of £551,200 to seven other MPsand Labour.

    Tap on individual circles to explore other members of parliament, sources of money, political parties, and APPGs.

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    Every year, millions of pounds pour into Westminster – into the accounts of the people, groups, organisations and parties that work and operate at the centre of government. Although most of this money must technically be disclosed to the public, the way that information is reported, stored and displayed almost guarantees the records will not be widely scrutinised.

    Payment records are spread across different government websites, often split into small files covering short periods of time and regularly published with duplicate entries, spelling mistakes and other errors. The data required to examine the financial interests of just one Member of Parliament is laborious to gather.

    Tortoise Media and Sky News have programmatically collected and analysed thousands of donations and payment records from MPs, political parties, and all-party parliamentary groups (APPGs). The resulting database is an extensive, though not comprehensive, record of the financial interests in Westminster.

    Because the purpose of this database is to look at exterior sources of money and influence, it does not cover the everyday expenses required to run a central government's main legislative body. Notably, you won't find any reference to Members' annual base salary of £84,144. Nor will you find references to the additional compensation made by government ministers and MPs with other extra responsibilities.

    It also doesn't cover outgoings. For example, members sometimes report that they've donated a sum to charity or given it to their local party, but our database doesn't make that distinction. (You can find more detail on how and why we made decisions like this in our publicly-accessible methodology.)

    What the database does include is the following datasets for the entirety of the current parliament – from its start on 19 December 2019 to the most recent disclosures:

    • From the Register of Members’ Financial Interests: Earnings from secondary employment, donations, gifts and other benefits (including international travel) for all sitting and former members of the current parliament. (Excludes financial interests for which no monetary value is given.)
    • From the Register of All-Party Parliamentary Groups: Donations, services, gifts and other benefits for all APPGs that have operated at any point during the current parliament, as well as membership lists for each group
    • From the Electoral Commission: Donations, gifts and other benefits received by all political parties currently represented in the House of Commons
    Let’s see where your Member of Parliament fits into it all.

    See more: Methodology, corrections and clarifications, and credits


     
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  13. Grizzled Wanderer

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    That'll keep her in earpods.

    Oh no, we pay for them don't we?
     
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  14. Flash Gordon

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    So Rayner is 23rd. Not a total shock as she's deputy leader for the opposition, she's bound to get a lot of donations.

    Who are the 22 above her?

    Why is she the one on your radar?
     
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  15. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    Because she's the incoming deputy PM, she'll probably be top next year because of that and and most likely to challenge Starmer before he's even put new wallpaper up due to the ongoing civil war within the party?

    We complain about tories being at the beck and call of whoever pays the most money, the same is going to happen here. They don't pay because they're true believers, they're buying influence, so the money is going to go there and they'll continue to get what they want.

    Will it be ok because it's not a tory taking the money?
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    'Who is this Exile poster of which you speak, it's definitely not me ...

    ... although he certainly seems to have many opinions I applaud and posts at all hours just like me'


    'It's such a shame he vanished just before I started posting, I'd have enjoyed our chats together' <laugh>
     
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  17. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    Yes, just me and the other fifty or so who spell realize how their mobile phone spells it.

    Mackem-tiz
    Essayefcee
    Comfy
    Hefty Fullback
    Monkey69
    Smug In Boots (I'd stop reading now out of embarrassment, but there's more)
    Oliver's Army
    Billy Batts
    Sheepman
    Alcouath
    Mackemstine Roger
    Ozzymac
    Evil Jimmy Krankies
    Rooch
    Dred
    Gil T Azell

    Is anyone not Exile? Is it just me and him on here?
     
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  18. Brainy Dose

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    " We think all of these poor refugees should be welcome to come to this country and be cared for by us,their lives have been just awful........but, we just don't have room for them in our village.
    And the new housing development up the road, some of those people that live in the social housing part......well.....the way their children behave,and the language! Seen some of them outside the front door in their dressing gowns,smoking and not really what we're used to here."
    That's what it means.
     
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  19. vic9

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    Always have and always will expect the tories to have their snout in the trough but I expect ( delusional dream) that labour mp’s and the so called “working class hero’s” would be above all this crap
    Don’t get me wrong I applaud and admire people who make it in life from humble beginnings but don’t be embarrassed and uneasy with your new found wealth and preach and criticise others for doing the same
    She’s a leech like the rest of them
     
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    Can I ask, what defines you as working class, or otherwise? This thread has me confused as to the definition now and it seems I need to know if I am to vote.
     
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