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Garry Monk...

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by ymaohyd, Apr 29, 2014.

  1. ivoralljack

    ivoralljack Well-Known Member

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    According to many on this board, so did Michael Laudrup.
     
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  2. Yankee_Jack

    Yankee_Jack Well-Known Member

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    Pressure is part of the job, whether you're at the top fighting to win the league, or at the bottom fighting to stay in it. Having resources available and time to work with those resources for a whole week is a completely different challenge and level of complexity than working with limited resources and a work week punctuated by travel and recovery.
     
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  3. Libertyswan

    Libertyswan Well-Known Member

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    Well said, I'm happy too.
     
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  4. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    And while your doing all that and having senior players undermine you it adds to the pressure also...
     
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  5. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    So,to summarise,since many feel that Monk is a vast improvement on Laudrup,next season should be a bumper one.

    Monk should be able to at least emulate the achievements of Laudrup,i.e.,top ten finish, and the securing of a major Cup.

    The following season he can then take us into Europe and the latter stages of a European tournament.

    Anything LESS than the above and the knives will be out.

    P.S. He will also need to bring in a bargain a la Michu. <laugh>
     
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  6. Jack Uzi

    Jack Uzi Active Member

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    I don't think many feel that Monk is a vast improvement on last season Laudrup. We may well never have a season that good again.
     
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  7. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Monk has been an improvement on this seasons Laudrup, but nowhere near as good as the Laudrup pre COC final.

    P.S. Let's hope we don't go for someone of Aspas quality in the summer <laugh>
     
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  8. Pete from Crete

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    All these stats re . ML and GM to prove who is /was the better manager mean nothing simply because ML was not sacked because of results.
     
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  9. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    Do you work for the Office of National Statistics?? If not, apply now....<laugh>
     
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  10. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Swans loves his stats, that's why I asked for them :D
     
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  11. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Its not going to take much to better laudrup is it <laugh> Monk has already done that in a short time <laugh>....But as i have said laudrup could not or would not conform to swansea's way of doing things and that was part of his contract. Anyone who attended matches could see in the end that we were a shambles and playing the game that was making the players unhappy. He had to go to save the club and maybe monk wont be a success but at least he has done a good job so far in bringing the club back to a happy medium and he has got the results needed to stay up. I can only go on what i see and i cant fault monk for his outstanding efforts and i can see fully well why he has the backing of the players to give it a go next season. If he has a bad start then like any manager he will be sacked and he knows that fully well and it has not put him off. he wants a go and for what he has achieved not just recently but over a decade then i don't have any argument with him getting the job.
     
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  12. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about you,Valley,but this Laudrup/Monk nonsense is doing my head in.

    Where do people get the time to plow through all the records and produce reams of pointless facts and figures? And they expect us to read and make some sense of it all.

    The BOTTOM LINE is, that despite the recent upheavals and shenanigans,we are all still Swansea City supporters,following them through thick and thin,good times and bad.

    That won't change,regardless of who is the Manager.

    P.S. Any truth to the rumour that Monk is planning on re-signing Sheckter for next season. <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  13. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    "It's not going to take much to better Laudrup,is it"?

    Well,let Monk get a top ten slot,plus win a major trophy,etc.,oh,and get some sort of World wide status comparable to Laudrup's.Then come back and tell us all about it.

    The very name Michael Laudrup is known throughout The World,not only in football circles. Garry Monk has no such status.

    "Monk has already done that in a short time". Done what exactly? Which Cup has he won? Are The Swans' in the top ten? How far in Europe has Monk taken the Club?

    Since there is no way of knowing whether the team would have been relegated had Laudrup not been sacked,Monk has achieved nothing in comparison to him.

    Now,in two years time a comparison can be made,until then all attempts to inflate Monk's performance as manager are rather pointless.
     
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  14. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    your so blinkered liber, you are totally ignoring nearly a season and a half of his reign...anyway like i say you decide it don't matter
     
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  15. Terror ball

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    You see, it's alright to have a grin at Swanselona's love of statistics but the alternative is above.
    Not very clever is it?
    If people are incapable of a debate using rational arguments they render words meaningless.

    My father always taught me "you can't win an argument with a cretin" but here goes. ..

    DaiSwan (and anyone who agrees with him)
    By what measure has Monk achieved more than Laudrup?

    Laudrup finished higher.
    With more points.
    Masterminded this club's first ever major trophy (outfoxing Rodgers and Benitez tactically along the way).
    Improved our squad immeasurablely...purchasing Michu and Bony who would rake in a minimum £40m for the pair if we sold tomorrow.
    Steered us through to the knockout stages of the Europa.
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    Got us further in the FA cup than we've been for years.

    What has Monk done as manager?
    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  16. Terror ball

    Terror ball Well-Known Member

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    Beat me to it Lib <laugh>
     
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  17. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    I am probably the least blinkered when it come to this Monk/Laudrup scenario. I have no axe to grind either way.
    You,however,have a very large axe and you've been honing it non-stop for months now and the target is Laudrup.
    You constantly refer to "facts" yet you conveniently ignore the facts that I have outlined above.
    How very convenient and very typical of your debating style.
    Actually,you don't have a debating style,since it is you who wears the blinkers.
     
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  18. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    "You can't win an argument with a cretin". Lovely,and ever so true. <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  19. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    As you've clearly indicated Terror,Laudrup was just a waste of space as a Manager,and Dai is right,and that's a FACT!!! <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  20. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    A point that is being missed is that Michael Laudrup could see the importance of cups as a way of getting to Europe.
    Now I understand many supporters feel Europe was distracting, dangerous even; but the fact is quality players need an incentive to come to play for Swansea. For us there is no greater honour, for them its a poor Premier League team where pay is comparatively low, with no chance of playing at the highest level and not really wanting to win anything (if you win a cup you play in Europe ergo don't want to win cups).
    I am convinced we'd have stayed up with Laudrup and even been safe earlier and we might, might have been looking forward to signing better players.
     
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