Fraser McCarthy

But equally, was the defence playing well because Forster was there? Let's not forget the upturn in defensive record came about when Forster came back, and the stark contrast in defensive performances compared to Stekelenberg.

 

Oh undoubtedly it plays a part, yes.

 

I don’t think it was lack of ability that proved Frasers recent down fall. I also think he is better than average. He lost confidence very suddenly not sure why. It certainly was very evident before he was dropped too many errors.

 

I'm voting for Fraser so he knows he's loved

 

He needs to know he is loved so we can sell him.

 

Especially at £80k a week, he needs to move on
Sure Liverpool would want him

 

And 5 years!

 

Can anyone post the shots per goal ratio of each?

Don’t really see much overall difference. Different keepers but our performance hasn’t been different.

Would you say one striker has performed better than another if neither scored goals?

 

Yes, absolutely. Hold up play, linking, runs, occupying opposition defences, drawing defenders out of position to create space etc etc.

Far, far, far too many people rely on stats to make a decision, instead of trusting their own eyes.

 

Strikers can do these things..? Not ours.

 

Well yes, but ultimately a striker is judged on goals scored. Which is why people call for Austin to come back in; he scores goals.

Fraser has been shaky in the past but only got dropped when he started shipping goals.

 

Forster - 67/101 (69.1%)
McCarthy - 25/45 (55.6%)

 

Cheers. **** we’ve shipped a lot of goals. As I expected not much difference. Despite what people seem to see.

 

Interestingly, this season in PL

Fraser P20 conceded 30 . 1.5 goals/game 4 clean sheets
Alex P12 conceded 20 1.66 goals/game 2 clean sheets


Not a lot in it and actually puts Fraser in a good light?

I'm on the fence, happy with both.


EDIT: take out last two games for McCarthy and last game for fraser (for fairness)

Fraser 1.31
Alex 1.4

So really similar ....Statistically

 

Did Fraser benefit from the games when VVD was playing? And before Lemina went on holiday?

 

See stats can mean anything once you bend them

 

That's the problem, stats for goalkeepers and defenders are hard. Or to put it another way, if De Gea isn't winning your preferred stat by miles, then it's wrong. And we know that because we can watch him and he is clearly the best. Personally I thought Forster's worst spell was while McCarthy was injured which was a bit unfortunate for us, but they are both basically fine.

 

No, that shows that stats can be misread. There’s a million other factors at play.

 

Just to clarify, I don’t think there is a huge difference between them, but I absolutely think AM has had a better season, and is the better choice currently. Stats can inform a debate, but they are certainly not defining measures.

 

who's our no. 3 goalie?