FPP to take full control

[Smug in Boots]

I think i know who you're taliking about Smug. They do well to stay under the radar but i keep an eye out for their posts.

As they say, Up there for thinking.

Thing is mate, I regularly change the location, sex and position of people who give me info.

That ensures that if they check the forum they know I'm not compromising them.

Adversely it means other people, who know the facts, look at my posts and think I've been misinformed.

That lowers my credibility with them and means they wouldn't tell me anything ...

... it's a balancing act that became overwhelming for a time.

That's the reason I don't post on RTG, too many vultures picking away at the bones of anything with a bit of meat on.

 

[Ozzymac]

I allow myself to excited mate cos Im the one that has to put up with the me when it falls flat. What is the bit about noises from RAWA?

I allow myself to get excited because it means my prostrate's fine and Mrs O is in for a great night (well for me it's great, she's usually asleep)

 

[Smug in Boots]

I allow myself to excited mate cos Im the one that has to put up with the me when it falls flat. What is the bit about noises from RAWA?

Oops, I thought the RAWA stuff was common knowledge.

I'd better have a check, and see if it is, before I say anything else

 

[Ozzymac]

Oops, I thought the RAWA stuff was common knowledge.

I'd better have a check, and see if it is, before I say anything else

No need to hold back mate, they never consult their members anyway

 

[Smug in Boots]

people clearly believe you're ITK despite your info that you've been fed not being accurate on this.

You're claiming that when I said I believed FPP would take over the club I was incorrect.

Are you saying they definitely won't just to be clear, yes or no.

 

[Kittenmittons]

FFS kitten, give it a rest marra. You and Smug are never going to see eye to eye so let it go.

Most people are happy to hear your opinions, it is after all a message board but why do so many of your posts appear to either be
A: Having a go at Smug
B: trying to convince people that your view is correct.

Don't get me wrong, you make some very interesting points at times but if people choose not to agree with you let it go. I've got years of experience at this as i'm married and my opinions are never correct.

All I said initially was that we dont know what to believe after so many contradictory rumours and takes on it from supposedly good sources.

Smug is the one who came in and started (as always) dishing out the personal abuse. I explicitly said it wasn't a dig, it was to get people thinking this really could be another bit of duff info, so dont get too worked up either way! Confucius's excitement and likely disappointment is a good example.

 

[Kittenmittons]

You're claiming that when I said I believed FPP would take over the club I was incorrect.

Are you saying they definitely won't just to be clear, yes or no.

I'm saying there is no evidence they will, and that Donald explicitly said they didn't make a bid for the club and he didn't think they were interested in doing so. Until we have something more concrete than rumours from second hand sources like Hetherington, I think it's still as I said a month ago, a 1% chance they do it.

 

[Smug in Boots]

All I said initially was that we dont know what to believe after so many contradictory rumours and takes on it from supposedly good sources.

Smug is the one who came in and started (as always) dishing out the personal abuse. I explicitly said it wasn't a dig, it was to get people thinking this really could be another bit of duff info, so dont get too worked up either way! Confucius's excitement and likely disappointment is a good example.

I can say a pig isn't a pig but it still goes oink if you kick it.

Just give it a rest man as you promised the forum you would .....

 

[Dancingstripes]

Y

That's why they are billionnaires.
They will have had valuations done plus due diligence etc.
Maybe that is what we need instead of chancers promising the world and delivering the square root of feck all.
In passing rather have these blokes than the proposed Saudi war criminal and murderer who wishes to take over nufc to help 'sport wash' away his disgraceful acts.
Having a payday loan company sponsoring you doesnt seem so bad in retrospect albeit many fans dont give 2 hoots who or where the money comes from.

As I said in the previous post, the club is a bargain as it is.

A 50k, newish stadium, modern training facilities and debt free for £40 mill? You won't get a better deal than that. If you want to own a football club that is, and I'm not sure these Americans do.

If they thought the club was over valued at £100mill, then fair enough.

But £5-10mill?

 

[Kittenmittons]

I can say a pig isn't a pig but it still goes oink if you kick it.

I think I can guess your response about just being a normal poster, but you're surely not unaware of how much your words impact on posters here and elsewhere? If you keep telling people not to believe what Donald has said, and that FPP are interested in a takeover, then people listen to that and put more stall in it than even Donald himself. Sometimes, as above, you even do it in a wink nod 'that's not what I'm saying, but WINK maybe it will happen' type of way. You know and we all know what that means on here.

I don't think the 'people can choose to believe what they want' line works here. You're whipping people up into a frenzy about something that objectively has yet to show any signs of happening. The chinese whispers that have gone on about FPP wanting full control and Donald denying them this opportunity in some way, are all responsible for the way the fans groups went on over Christmas imo. They thought Donald was playing hardball, but the more that comes out, the less it seems that way.

And people get angry. They start protests, and if we get a new owner who isn't FPP, they'll pass some of that on to them, in that disgruntled 'they're better than Donald but why haven't we got FPP' type of way. When they don't spend enough, FPP will be thrown at them. And it's not fair.

I know you're posting in good faith. Nothing I've said here is a dig, it's just trying to get you to understand that you have a powerful voice whether you choose it or not. Be wise about how you use that, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

On which note...

 

[The Berk]

I think I can guess your response about just being a normal poster, but you're surely not unaware of how much your words impact on posters here and elsewhere? If you keep telling people not to believe what Donald has said, and that FPP are interested in a takeover, then people listen to that and put more stall in it than even Donald himself. Sometimes, as above, you even do it in a wink nod 'that's not what I'm saying, but WINK maybe it will happen' type of way. You know and we all know what that means on here.

I don't think the 'people can choose to believe what they want' line works here. You're whipping people up into a frenzy about something that objectively has yet to show any signs of happening. The chinese whispers that have gone on about FPP wanting full control and Donald denying them this opportunity in some way, are all responsible for the way the fans groups went on over Christmas imo. They thought Donald was playing hardball, but the more that comes out, the less it seems that way.

I know you're posting in good faith. Nothing I've said here is a dig, it's just trying to get you to understand that you have a powerful voice whether you choose it or not. Be wise about how you use that, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

On which note...

**** off ya boring bastard

 

[Smug in Boots]

How many times do you have to repeat exactly the same thing ....

.... "let's take a step back and wait and see."

How about you do what you're telling everyone else to do ...

... or just let people make up their own minds without your relentless biased. pressure

 

[rooch 3]

F ucking hell! can’t think of nowt else to say.

 

[The Berk]

F ucking hell! can’t think of nowt else to say.

Soz

 

[Kittenmittons]

How many times do you have to repeat exactly the same thing ....

.... "let's take a step back and wait and see."

How about you do what you're telling everyone else to do ...

... or just let people make up their own minds without your relentless biased. pressure

Again, you're not unaware that your words carry more weight. You're wading in giving it the big un, talking about how many people will be unhappy you were right, about how you were told this would happen.

You've cultivated this status on here with those posts. I'm firmly aware that nobody listens to me on here, so it doesn't matter what I say. When someone that - whether they want it or not - is looked up to as ITK by other fans posts relentless confirmation of our dream scenario being almost upon us, just have a think about how people will react if that doesn't happen.

All I care about is the club. None of this pseudo-ITK ****e is helping the club to get on an even keel and 'just get on with it', because everyone is like a coiled spring expecting an imminent FPP takeover.

 

[Kittenmittons]

And I really will leave it there as I have a meeting this afternoon. I hope you understand, my point is to use your info wisely. Whatever it is, think of how many people are hanging on your words.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Again, you're not unaware that your words carry more weight. You're wading in giving it the big un, talking about how many people will be unhappy you were right, about how you were told this would happen.

You've cultivated this status on here with those posts. I'm firmly aware that nobody listens to me on here, so it doesn't matter what I say. When someone that - whether they want it or not - is looked up to as ITK by other fans posts relentless confirmation of our dream scenario being almost upon us, just have a think about how people will react if that doesn't happen.

All I care about is the club. None of this pseudo-ITK ****e is helping the club to get on an even keel and 'just get on with it', because everyone is like a coiled spring expecting an imminent FPP takeover.

I'll be honest with you, anyone who believes there's any status in posting on anonymous forums has a problem.

You should really take some time to have a serious think about your life.

 

[HeatonMackem]

I think I can guess your response about just being a normal poster, but you're surely not unaware of how much your words impact on posters here and elsewhere? If you keep telling people not to believe what Donald has said, and that FPP are interested in a takeover, then people listen to that and put more stall in it than even Donald himself. Sometimes, as above, you even do it in a wink nod 'that's not what I'm saying, but WINK maybe it will happen' type of way. You know and we all know what that means on here.

I don't think the 'people can choose to believe what they want' line works here. You're whipping people up into a frenzy about something that objectively has yet to show any signs of happening. The chinese whispers that have gone on about FPP wanting full control and Donald denying them this opportunity in some way, are all responsible for the way the fans groups went on over Christmas imo. They thought Donald was playing hardball, but the more that comes out, the less it seems that way.

And people get angry. They start protests, and if we get a new owner who isn't FPP, they'll pass some of that on to them, in that disgruntled 'they're better than Donald but why haven't we got FPP' type of way. When they don't spend enough, FPP will be thrown at them. And it's not fair.

I know you're posting in good faith. Nothing I've said here is a dig, it's just trying to get you to understand that you have a powerful voice whether you choose it or not. Be wise about how you use that, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

On which note...

I don't need your censoring, thanks. I can think for myself. I'm interested to read what Smug has heard and chooses to pass on, but I take it all with a pinch of salt because, as reliable as Smug thinks his contacts are, we don't necessarily know their sources and everyone's motives.

The media called it a 'takeover' from the start. The fanzines printed SunDelland T-shirts FFS. You can't blame Smug if expectations have been blown out of proportion.

 

[Smug in Boots]

And I really will leave it there as I have a meeting this afternoon. I hope you understand, my point is to use your info wisely. Whatever it is, think of how many people are hanging on your words.

People aren't as thick as you'd like to paint them.

Some people will always choose to believe good news, it doesn't mean they'll put their life savings on it.

You've just got yersel a bit overexcited tbh.

 

[Kittenmittons]

I'll be honest with you, anyone who believes there's any status in posting on anonymous forums has a problem.

You should really take some time to have a serious think about your life.

Very disingenuous, you knew what I meant, status does not imply privilege, but people do look up to you. And no, they're not thick, they just want to believe something and you're confirming their innermost bias about the future, Like a fortune teller.

Adios