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Shark Sports said:
But that's completely logical. I don't really understand what the Dundalk fans are moaning at.
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Its completely logical if you're a Hull City fan (or Coach) but none of the Dundalk fans give a **** about us or improving our team. They're moaning about the idea of being a feeder club to us.

I agree with you about the standard there not being that high. However, they see themselves is big fish in that little pond.

I'd be moaning too if someone bought us with the aim of using us to develop the talent of another team in a bigger division.
 
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Ullofaman said:
Well it looks like his focus is some team (any team???) in the LoI. One day it's Dundalk, next day it's Shelbourne. Watch him put on the charm after the accrual "Dundalk reminds me so much of Istanbul:emoticon-0105-wink:" LoI clubs come wrapped with dreadful stadia and a certain type of fan. Any player with talent is expected to go abroad. Just like rugby permeates all of NZ, in Ireland, the GAA codes dominate and influence all facets of society. Yes, soccer is played by many kids at community level in the same way that it is in the States - recreational and local. Watching and supporting Premiership and other top European clubs is popular just like everywhere else but when it comes to serious sporting commitment, it always leans towards GAA. Flying to England every Saturday to support Liverpool or whoever is very popular but watching and supporting a LoI team puts you into weirdo status like following ice hockey in New York instead of baseball and football.
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Or the weirdo territory of people in this country following American football.
 
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Ullofaman said:
Well it looks like his focus is some team (any team???) in the LoI. One day it's Dundalk, next day it's Shelbourne. Watch him put on the charm after the accrual "Dundalk reminds me so much of Istanbul:emoticon-0105-wink:" LoI clubs come wrapped with dreadful stadia and a certain type of fan. Any player with talent is expected to go abroad. Just like rugby permeates all of NZ, in Ireland, the GAA codes dominate and influence all facets of society. Yes, soccer is played by many kids at community level in the same way that it is in the States - recreational and local. Watching and supporting Premiership and other top European clubs is popular just like everywhere else but when it comes to serious sporting commitment, it always leans towards GAA. Flying to England every Saturday to support Liverpool or whoever is very popular but watching and supporting a LoI team puts you into weirdo status like following ice hockey in New York instead of baseball and football.
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Or the weirdo territory of people in this country following American football.
 
Steven Toast said:
Well we sent Snelgrove over to NI and he very quickly became a first teamer for Crusaders, who are in the European places in that league. Chadwick did well over there too. I know NI is slightly weaker than the Irish league, but if you flip it and look at players like Jordan Flores who looked nothing like being able to break into our League One side despite having been a regular for Dundalk, I think our promising youngsters would probably do pretty well. Not all of our development squad are going to become Football League players, as much as we'd love them to. You only have to look at Ahmed Salam, who was looking really promising and did alright at Linfield, but then couldn't find a club for love nor money upon his release and has ended up at Alfreton and has been in and out of their side, which is worrying because they're mid table in the National League North.

The LOI is a decent standard and would offer proper men's football, an affiliate there is good but it is worth pointing out that it still takes 5 continuous years to earn Irish citizenships so there's no quick route to a work permit there and it's unlikely that any player would be picked for their country playing in the LOI, even the Irish ones tend to be few and far between. Serbia would be a better bet if we sign foreign players; it's not as local (obviously), but citizenship only takes three years (just ask Evandro) and the league is ranked 11th, whereas the LOI is ranked 36th (below Latvia, Kosovo, Liechtenstein and Azerbaijan) so you're more likely to get Work Permit points.
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I don’t think the goal is to give out passports, I’m assuming it would be to get around the rule of being unable to sign U18 players from the EU
 
Stockholm Tiger said:
Its completely logical if you're a Hull City fan (or Coach) but none of the Dundalk fans give a **** about us or improving our team. They're moaning about the idea of being a feeder club to us.

I agree with you about the standard there not being that high. However, they see themselves is big fish in that little pond.

I'd be moaning too if someone bought us with the aim of using us to develop the talent of another team in a bigger division.
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If we takeover Dundalk, the aim will be to win the league and go deep in Europe. Acun won't be buying it to take them backwards. Yes, they'll have a strong Hull City influence but that won't detract away from the desire to push them forwards too
 
dennisboothstash said:
In hindsight although I do genuinely like Friday night matches under the floodlights this post may have been influenced by it being posted on a Friday after a pleasant day’s golf and a few lunchtime pints, and me fancying going back out to watch City!
I do acknowledge Bristol away would be tricky though get back from on a Friday night.


So ideally I’d prefer all our home games on a Friday night and all our away games at 3pm on a Saturday.
Not too much to ask is it?…
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Typical man , you want your cake and to eat it too
 
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Ha just catching up on all the posts after a busy week now Martin.

There are so many pros to being part of a multi-club network, that I think it’s something to be excited about, as long as you get the right ownership group.

The main pros would be the ones you’ve all discussed here, namely additional financial power/security which I believe is the main driver here, the ability to loan players from within the network of clubs (or parent club), and then an improvement to facilities needed for the parent clubs to be comfortable sending players to DFC. To compete to win not only the LOI but also progress meaningfully in Europe, the club probably needs that help now.

I’d also throw in the additional benefits that come from information sharing - when I was at the club I could ask the AFCB scouting dept for all of the scouting reports over a number of years that were on the system as part of their scouting process in order to make better decisions on potential signings - the more info you have on players the more signings you’ll get right.

You should also consider information sharing on best practice, from scouting to sports science, coaching to commercial. Even the ability for SOD to go and visit partner clubs to spend time with the other head coaches in the network and learn from their coaching staff would help his personal development. Generally speaking, the right club network can add a lot of value to a club with fairly modest resources such as DFC.

On the flip side, the ownership needs to be mindful of protecting the culture and identity of each club within it. That strikes me as being hugely important to the people of Dundalk, and I personal experience helps me understand why. You don’t want to be considered a feeder club, you want to be known for your own success and history which cannot and will never be taken away.

Other negatives may include losing some of your top talent, although this always happen when you sit where you sit in the football food chain. You have to accept you’re playing a role for a bigger group, and there will decisions made above your head, which may not have been made is the club was a sole entity. You may also have to take players on that the coach may not have necessarily chosen, but they may need a place in the EU to keep them to build points for work permit requirements in the UK etc. But these are things you can accept as long as the positives outweighs the negatives.

In an ideal world you’ll find a multi club network with owners who have a strategic vision that aligns with Dundalk’s and it’s a mutually beneficial partnership.
 
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