Ex-Manager Thread

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Who would you have as our next Manager

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ImpSaint said:
I think many people are underestimating Krueger. Since he has taken over and he has started to put into place strategies going forward we have signed a new lucrative sports kid deal. We have just signed a very lucrative main sponsor.

I would suggest in Krueger's case that we could do with him hanging around for a decade to oversee the implementation of his commercial plans and tie ups in the US etc.

On Reed's side while it would be great if he similarly stayed around for years and years he is effectively leading a department that is already in place. The plan is set.

I wouldn't want either if them to leave "to freshen things up" but Reed's side is already there and he just has to make sure it remains that way. Krugers plans have much more work to be done to implement and it is the commercial side that will eventually get us to where we want to be brandwise.

I think many people think Krueger just sits on his hands and comes out with a motivational speech every now and again but I think he is probably the key member of the board at the moment who keeps his cool, is very determined and focused and everything he says will be done is done.

So any talk of it being a good idea for them to leave "to freshen things up" is nonsense. They are both doing a great job.
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I found it rather nonsensical as well. The next post Reed will fill is retirement, and Krueger can stay as long as he likes. He's a breath of fresh air in a role that can lead to some very stodgy appointments. Not so here. No doubt he will leave if he feels that Saints are no longer aiming to be the best they can. Which means his next post will be retirement too.
 
Snake face has finally made a tiny acknowledgement to his former club on Twitter along with self-important 13 second gif of "happy" times. Git
 
Has anyone seen the big long message doing the rounds on Facebook? (Too lazy to look through all the posts) Apparently leaked information regarding why he left us. It all fits a bit too well if you ask me, and makes Saints sound very good. If it's not been posted on here I can do a copy and paste job to put it on.
 
TheSofaSaint said:
Has anyone seen the big long message doing the rounds on Facebook? (Too lazy to look through all the posts) Apparently leaked information regarding why he left us. It all fits a bit too well if you ask me, and makes Saints sound very good. If it's not been posted on here I can do a copy and paste job to put it on.
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If you dig back deep enough I think it or excerpts have been posted elsewhere if it is the Jack S stuff.
 
People need to relax. There are probably two dozen posts on this thread with people going "I'm never going to get fooled again. I realize now football is a business. Club is bigger than one person, etc."

And then like, two pages later "Les Reed will never leave! He's the reason for our success and he loves it here!"

Same thing people said about Adkins. And Koeman. And Pochettino. And Cortese.

Reed will go at some point, and then all of a sudden people will remember what a horrible laughingstock he was as a manager. And all the times he said we were about to sign someone and it didn't happen, etc.
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
People need to relax. There are probably two dozen posts on this thread with people going "I'm never going to get fooled again. I realize now football is a business. Club is bigger than one person, etc."

And then like, two pages later "Les Reed will never leave! He's the reason for our success and he loves it here!"

Same thing people said about Adkins. And Koeman. And Pochettino. And Cortese.

Reed will go at some point, and then all of a sudden people will remember what a horrible laughingstock he was as a manager. And all the times he said we were about to sign someone and it didn't happen, etc.
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Course he'll leave eventually (or retire), and realistically we'll say he did a very good job whilst here. Much as Poch did, much as Ronald did.

Once again though, it's all in the manner of the leaving.
 
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Beddytare said:
Yep........it is thought his success in getting the England Rugby side to challenge the best, could be repeated at Saints. Director of Football though that was a weird one. Krueger was brought in to emanate what he did on the business side of the Canadian hockey team. (Can't remember the team's name) As you say he has little or nowt to do on the actual football side unlike woodward.
It should be remembered though Kruger is being paid big bucks for what he is doing.
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He didn't do anything on the business side for that Canadian hockey team. He was the head coach...previous to this he had no experience running the business-side ops of any organization, that I am aware.
 
Schad said:
He didn't do anything on the business side for that Canadian hockey team. He was the head coach...previous to this he had no experience running the business-side ops of any organization, that I am aware.
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Thanks for that........another strange one then. Have to say he is doing a bloody good job and everything is based as I understand on his old hockey club set up. Unless that is........you or anyone knows different?
 
Beddytare said:
Thanks for that........another strange one then. Have to say he is doing a bloody good job and everything is based as I understand on his old hockey club set up. Unless that is........you or anyone knows different?
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No idea. Unless he had more expansive duties when coaching in Germany (which is possible, because they're effectively minor league clubs, and consequently there's probably more overlap between job titles), he was never in operations at all. As an assistant coach/head coach in Edmonton, he wouldn't have had an influence over organizational setup or business, and he wasn't head coach for long. He was fired after one season, which wasn't entirely his fault, but neither did he have a noticeable impact on things.

Also, Edmonton is miserably bad and has been for a long time, so they'd be a bad model to choose, heh.
 
If it was possible to get it always right, everyone would do it. We hope our system takes some of the luck out of it. Not clear what went wrong with Juanmi...was he unhappy, did he fail to settle, did the EPL not suit him? Was he given enough time? To take a loss on him, Saints must be certain that any problems were not temporary.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
If it was possible to get it always right, everyone would do it. We hope our system takes some of the luck out of it. Not clear what went wrong with Juanmi...was he unhappy, did he fail to settle, did the EPL not suit him? Was he given enough time? To take a loss on him, Saints must be certain that any problems were not temporary.
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I'm not entirely convinced that he got a fair chance - perhaps he wanted out just as much.
 
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Beddytare said:
Thanks for that........another strange one then. Have to say he is doing a bloody good job and everything is based as I understand on his old hockey club set up. Unless that is........you or anyone knows different?
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I believe Ralph is a Member of the World Economic Forum's Global Agenda Council on New Models of Leadership. This is where he met Katharina Liebherr

I've read a bit about their ideas and it all seems very "the southampton way" with such things like our deals with Under Armour and Virgin which are more partnerships rather than sponsorships - http://reports.weforum.org/global-agenda-council-on-new-models-of-leadership/
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The Frog Chorus said:
I believe Ralph is a Member of the World Economic Forum's Global Agenda Council on New Models of Leadership. This is where he met Katharina Liebherr
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Suspect that's correct.

I've read a bit about their ideas and it all seems very "the southampton way" with such things like our deals with Under Armour and Virgin which are more partnerships rather than sponsorships - http://reports.weforum.org/global-agenda-council-on-new-models-of-leadership/
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Well, kinda. Like most things to come out of the WEF, there's some interesting stuff in there, and a giant helping of navel-gazing business-speak. As Krueger had a side-job as a motivational speaker who was fluent in navel-gazing business-speak, he was a good fit.
 
Schad said:
Suspect that's correct.



Well, kinda. Like most things to come out of the WEF, there's some interesting stuff in there, and a giant helping of navel-gazing business-speak. As Krueger had a side-job as a motivational speaker who was fluent in navel-gazing business-speak, he was a good fit.
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"Naval-gazing business-speak". That doesn't sound like our Ralph. <laugh>
 
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