Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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Same old same, you start to lose an argument and you cry. Typical Tory/Labour voter.

I dont have a problem with foreigners, but we must control it and only an exit will do that. I dont want to live in a country with 80M+ people in it
I'm more than happy to keep debating this as I'm able to present a cohesive opinion on each point. However, it's not a particularly interesting debate when you just keep saying "send the ****ers back you mong Labour/Tory ****".

I don't see how anyone can "lose" this "argument" either as it's about personal opinions.

I don't think your way of trying to get your point across is particularly compelling!
 
Romanians live 10 to a house so they can live on a lower wage, do you live in the real world?
Take out the unwanted workforce and wages will rise and we will all be happy
So they're prepared to suffer to live. They should be applauded and helped by increasing minimum wage, not chucking them out of the country.

You talk about them like they are sub-human.
 
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Actually it will change it a bit NSIS. The Russian, Chinese and Middle East money will stop coming into the prime property market as Britain won't be considered as safe a bet as it has been. It's already happening, there is almost no market in London for properties over £2million.

The easy thing is to say, **** it, that only impacts the rich but of course that is bollocks. Someone has to plan, build, clean and maintain these properties. If there's no market then it impacts the jobs that depend on rich people buying expensive houses.

In any slowdown in trade in almost any industry there is a trickle down effect that impacts the people at the "bottom" of the food chain far more than the people at the "top". Just like in the banking sector.

The banks go, the bankers either go with them or they're well off enough to review their options. The guy cleaning the toilets at night however has to find another job sharpish as he can't afford to be out of work. He's most likely Romanian as British people are too good to clean toilets at night!

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. But, fact is that London is currently seen as THE place to have property, and has been for some time. History dictates that the prices only go one way eventually. It's a very rich mans' version of Mark Twain's old adage. "Buy land, they ain't making it anymore"

It would certainly slow up if we voted to leave. But that would apply to the economy in general too.
 
So they're prepared to suffer to live. They should be applauded and helped by increasing minimum wage, not chucking them out of the country.

You talk about them like they are sub-human.

Sub human, not at all and those here would stay.

If rent/mortgage is £1000 a month a family would be to be on a good screw to pay it, but if 10 people are paying it, you can live on much lower wages and still be comfortable, so the outcome is wages are depressed (Stuart Rose head of the stronger in says so).
 
Sub human, not at all and those here would stay.

If rent/mortgage is £1000 a month a family would be to be on a good screw to pay it, but if 10 people are paying it, you can live on much lower wages and still be comfortable, so the outcome is wages are depressed (Stuart Rose head of the stronger in says so).
So the problem is the minimum wage not the Romanians.

Raise the minimum wage and I suspect the Romanians would still end up taking the menial jobs as the Brits don't want them. Easier to live off the state!
 
Sane people need to realise that no matter what rational problems you put up regarding the flaws in Brexit, the answer will always be.... it's because of the EU! It's such an easy cop out.

Then there's the inconsistencies. Apparently the country is going down the ****hole thanks to the EU... but we're the 5th largest economy, we have higher wages, we have industries that the world wants to trade with, we have seen our assets like our house market rising. All the arguments as to why we'd survive Brexit but somehow we're **** while we're in Brexit. Go figure.

By the way, a word to the wise. Anyone who honestly thinks house prices are going to drop after we leave the EU is living in cloud cuckoo land <laugh> AND anyone who ACTUALLY WANTS house prices to drop clearly hasn't thought things through as they're advocating a recession <doh>
 
France's problems are of their own making. Nothing to do with the EU. They basically suffer from 1970's UK disease. A bunch of ultra left wing unions who want to do less work for more money.

Ondeed, but the EU say they must have the same em
So the problem is the minimum wage not the Romanians.

Raise the minimum wage and I suspect the Romanians would still end up taking the menial jobs as the Brits don't want them. Easier to live off the state!

Part true I agree, but plenty of people would love to work for a fair wage, but that will bring in even more EU nationals that we cant house and offer health care without costing the tax payer £££££ more money, which we dont have
 
By the way, a word to the wise. Anyone who honestly thinks house prices are going to drop after we leave the EU is living in cloud cuckoo land laugh AND anyone who ACTUALLY WANTS house prices to drop clearly hasn't thought things through as they're advocating a recession doh

I'm not great with all this political nonsense, I find it boring and hate that it's all lies so you can't trust what they say or what you read. All seems pointless to me might as well read a fictional novel as it'll be more interesting and be more relevant to my life.

In what you post though there is some truth, we don't want house prices to drop that would be very bad as loads of people would go into negative equity. Build more affordable housing and keep the housing market on the up would make sense. I live on a new estate and it's not like it's full of old people the majority are young couples with 1 kid, they have decent jobs and can afford the mortgage, so all this young people can't afford homes is nonsense from my point of view.
 
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