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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

  1. In

    54.1%
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    45.9%
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  1. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Philip Hammond said that will not happen, Parliament have voted on doing the referendum and would accept the outcome. So whatever the courts say (if they tried), Parliament would ignore it.

    It was on Radio 5 this morning.
     
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  2. HRH Custard VC

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    But would you drop off or carry on as is and make more?
     
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  3. PINKIE

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    That is a non argument. The foreign shops pay their taxes, rent, business rates, utilities. Those people who run the shops spend their money again in the UK economy (as well as those obviously spending their money in the shops) Trying to say that all the money somehow simply goes abroad simply isn't true.

    I agree that low wages are problematic, but that is the responsibility of industry/Govt to pay a proper living wage. You appear to be blaming immigrants for creating a low wage economy, which seems to miss the point of why low wages exist.
     
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  4. Stan

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    Carry on as is and continue to take the profits as dividends not income.
     
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  5. HRH Custard VC

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    The leader of Stronger out ( Rose) said it has stopped wage rises.
     
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  6. NSIS

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    The law firm doing it are Mishcon de Reya, a heavyweight law firm. They're acting on behalf of clients and obviously think they have a case in law!
    It matters not what Hammond says, this would go before the law courts.
     
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  7. DMD

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    The people who run the shop's don't generally spend it in the UK. They have a culture of sending a good percentage 'home' to their families.

    And don't try to spin it to me blaming immigrants, I'm not.
     
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  9. HRH Custard VC

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    I cant see that happening, just yet
     
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  10. NSIS

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    Are you serious???....
     
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    They simply cannot avoid paying their taxes, rent, business rates, utilities etc into the UK economy. Then there is their own housing, food, clothes, fuel etc. immigrants living here are paying vastly more into the UK economy than they are sending out of the country.

    I'm glad you agree though that the low wage culture is not the fault of immigrants.
     
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    You said and I quote;

    " Some voted remain, because closing EU borders to largely white immigrants would open the borders to areas of the world with darker skins.
    The remain position is more racist than the leave."

    When pointed out that this is the most stupid post in the history of stupid, your retort was, and I quote;

    "Europeans are largely white, and similar "race" depending how you want to define it. They get open access. The ones limited include all the other "races". If a company or political party applied a similar system of screening applicants, they'd find themselves pilloried for racism."

    Which was merely digging a deeper pit for yourself.

    It's absolute guff, hence the reason all you've come back with is your default vacuous inanity when pulled up on it, with actual facts.

    Who are these people that supposedly voted remain with that as their driver? Or did you just make it up?
     
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  13. HRH Custard VC

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    Parliament will reject it, they have voted on having the referendum and would accept the outcome, its all to late.

    So do we take everything we dont agree with to court, dont like that tax rise, take it to court etc.

    Dont get your hopes up its pointless, we are leaving the EU
     
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  14. Stan

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    Merging what though? What are UKIP now?
     
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  15. Stan

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    Do they send more or less out of the country than the British business owners who go on multiple overseas holidays every year and buy property abroad?
     
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    Again, the responsibility of industry to pay a proper living wage.
     
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    Yes, why not?
     
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    It's not Parliaments decision to make.

    The referendum was nothing more than an opinion poll in legal terms, there was no legal requirement to act on it's result.
    However, there is a legal requirement for Parliament to either repeal or replace the 1972 act which put us into the EU in the first place.
     
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  19. PINKIE

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    I don't disagree. I think we've been brought up on 'cheap' food, which has massive hidden costs. It's the same with cheap clothes too. My feeling though is that your average Sun/Mail reader would kick off when those prices rise and try and find a way to blame immigrants for that too.
     
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    It's a statement of fact. The current EU immigration policy discriminates against people of colour. Institutions like the Black Police Officers Association had to rejig their own rules for far less obvious discriminatory policies.

    You saying it's guff, is simply displaying your ignorance..again.
     
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