Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

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Son of Stan said:
Except it's not which is why even he has admitted the NHS claim was a lie, Carney has said it's going to be rough, interest rates will be cut to boost household spending, the Chancellor has said taxes will rise and public spending will be cut.

Basically we will be poorer if we don't have a trade deal with the EU.
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We knew the economy would suffer when we came out the EU. It was always going to happen.

Once more becomes clear and trade deals start happening around the world, then obviously the economy will start to go back up again.
 
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Safc83 said:
They wouldn't have budged on free movement of people. We couldn't have possibly got the deal that the majority of the UK wanted.

Now we can <ok>
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I disagree. With them onside I think they would have budged on free movement as it could have been fudged. I think it'll be harder now as if they budge on it they basically send a message to every EU member that they can do the same.

Anyway, I hope May is successful in implementing Cameron's plan with one arm tied behind her back.
 
Son of Stan said:
Except it's not which is why even he has admitted the NHS claim was a lie, Carney has said it's going to be rough, interest rates will be cut to boost household spending, the Chancellor has said taxes will rise and public spending will be cut.

Basically we will be poorer if we don't have a trade deal with the EU.
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He said a lot of BS also he will not be the chancellor in a few weeks
 
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Son of Stan said:
I disagree. With them onside I think they would have budged on free movement as it could have been fudged. I think it'll be harder now as if they budge on it they basically send a message to every EU member that they can do the same.

Anyway, I hope May is successful in implementing Cameron's plan with one arm tied behind her back.
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Deluded. Seriously deluded.
 
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Safc83 said:
The European Union is going to fall apart.

We wont <ok>
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If we don't have a trade deal with them then we're in trouble. If we do have a trade deal with them and they fall apart then we're in trouble.

The only thing that's certain at the minute is that we're on the outside looking in. If a trade deal is so unimportant then why are all the businesses, economists and politicians so worried about it?
 
Smirnoffpriest said:
Ahh I see - so your saying when should the Party (or PLP) look at the bigger picture and look at definitely getting elected rather than follow it's party democracy?
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No, I'm not, although it is fine, but critical lines.

I am looking at the individuals and their motives. I question intelligent people playing with truths and beliefs. Nothing much changes, but it's not good.
 
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Son of Stan said:
But it's not deluded to think that as a non member we will get free access to trade whilst keeping the borders closed. Ok!
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One of the four conditions of the common market is freedom of movement. The question is do we want to be in the common market?

If not, then freedom of movement is not an issue. If we do, then it all depends whether the EU bods are willing to put aside the strict conditions to waive that for us. From what they said on Thursday their position atm sounds unanimous that they won't.
 
Treble said:
One of the four conditions of the common market is freedom of movement. The question is do we wang to be in the common market?

If not, then freedom of movement is not an issue. If we do, then it all depends whether the EU bods are willing to put aside the strict conditions to waive that for us. From what they said on Thursday their position atm sounds unanimous that they won't.
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Whose wang ?
 
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