Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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Not a shambles apparently...!

From The Mail

Boris Johnson's allies reacted with fury today after fellow Brexit backer Michael Gove sent him tumbling out of the Tory leadership contest.

The former London mayor admitted his hopes of succeeding David Cameron were over after the Justice Secretary announced his own bid and questioned his colleague's commitment to cutting ties with Brussels.

As the blows rained down on Mr Johnson this morning, key backers Nick Boles and Dominic Raab defected to Mr Gove's campaign and arch-rival Theresa May won support from Leader of the House Chris Grayling - another Brexit champion.

Within hours Mr Johnson, who had been the hot favourite, was using an event that had been intended as his campaign launch to rule himself out.

An aide is said to have texted a journalist: 'Gove is a c*** who set this up from the start.'
 
So overnight we're going to find replacements for nearly half our exports in markets that we already trade in?

You do realise we have not left the EU yet.

Or is that too hard for you little brain to figure out.
Its about time you had another little tantrum

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I forgot to say, the EU make lots more profit from the UK market than other EU counties.
Business like profit.

Frem the guardian rag

Europe has tended to be a less crucial market for UK service sector companies, many of whom have close business links with the US. Since 2000, the percentage of services sector exports going to the EU has remained at around 40%. Taking goods and services together, the share of exports going to the EU has fallen from 54% in 2000 to 44% in 2015.
 
Not a shambles apparently...!

From The Mail

Boris Johnson's allies reacted with fury today after fellow Brexit backer Michael Gove sent him tumbling out of the Tory leadership contest.

The former London mayor admitted his hopes of succeeding David Cameron were over after the Justice Secretary announced his own bid and questioned his colleague's commitment to cutting ties with Brussels.

As the blows rained down on Mr Johnson this morning, key backers Nick Boles and Dominic Raab defected to Mr Gove's campaign and arch-rival Theresa May won support from Leader of the House Chris Grayling - another Brexit champion.

Within hours Mr Johnson, who had been the hot favourite, was using an event that had been intended as his campaign launch to rule himself out.

An aide is said to have texted a journalist: 'Gove is a c*** who set this up from the start.'


... as I said above ... I hope Gove gets elected ... just the sort of leader the Tories deserve ... I reach for the remote as soon as the pompous little rodent's face contaminates my TV screen ... and I firmly believe that the Tory leadership has always been his end game and that Brexit was a useful smokescreen for that ambition... Cameron still has his knife in his back and Bumbling Boris is just his next step ... collateral damage ...
 
As you all I know, I voted to remain. I've given my reasons many times, so I'm not going into that again. This is just observations.

Something that's been noticeable for a while now is what's happening inside The Labour Party. It appears to less and less stand for the concerns of it's once core voters. I.e. The British working class.

The party appears to have been hijacked by a combination of affluent, politically correct, mostly metropolitan middle class. And a ragbag of far left unions, Trotskyites, SWP, and Anarchists, all of whom paid their £3 so they could vote for Jezza.

My old grandad, born in the East End of London more than 100 yrs ago, voted Labour his whole life. They were his party, the party of the working man. I hate to admit it, but he was Alf Garnett incarnate. He would have strung up all the 'queers' - his words, not mine - from the nearest lamppost. And put all the 'darkies' on the first boat back where they came from. I'm not saying those are the views of most working people nowadays, but we'd be blind to pretend that a somewhat moderated version of those views isn't still very prevalent.

The problem for Labour is how do they address the concerns, real or imagined, of these people. It's no coincidence or surprise that the rise of far right parties, like UKIP have come about when they at least share the concerns of a lot of working people about immigration and extreme Islam.

It's a real conundrum for The a Labour Party. How do they keep these voters when they no longer seem to share their concerns?
 
... as I said above ... I hope Gove gets elected ... just the sort of leader the Tories deserve ... I reach for the remote as soon as the pompous little rodent's face contaminates my TV screen ... and I firmly believe that the Tory leadership has always been his end game and that Brexit was a useful smokescreen for that ambition... Cameron still has his knife in his back and Bumbling Boris is just his next step ... collateral damage ...

I joked to a colleague before the last election, that my vote would go to the party that had the fewest front benchers that I wanted to slap!!
 
Can't see how a general election is knee jerk. We vote for a party but we very much do this based on who they put out there to lead the party and become our Prime Minister. IMO if the PM steps down we should have the opportunity to once again decide who is the new PM.

We vote in a party and it's manifesto. How you perceive it might be as you say, but it has no legitimate standing. Do you really expect that an early office death of a party leader/Prime Minister should result in a new GE; seriously think about it.
 
You do realise we have not left the EU yet.

Or is that too hard for you little brain to figure out.
Its about time you had another little tantrum

So in the space of 2 years max we're going to replace nearly half of our current exports to the EU with exports to other markets that we already trade in then?

Go ask your old man if you can borrow the family brain cell, sit in a darkened room and think about the likelihood of that actually happening.

We're only talking about £220BN worth, I'm sure you'll have it sussed by the time your carer calls you down for your fish fingers.
 
You obviously are an idiot without a simple grasp of comprehension. I didnt make a "decision about Londoners" - I was referring to the people in the class - the one's who were from London. You really have to go to classes if you want to have sufficient understanding to follow a couple of English sentences.
Your inference was that all Londoners had a lack of knowledge compared to people from outside London. I am surprised that anyone in an economics class, from London, did not at least have some knowledge about Milton Keynes. That is outside London.
 
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