England World Cup Squad

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the fact that smalling and cleverley have a chance to go to the world cup is ****ing mental
 
From what i heard in the interview it did sound that ANY changes will be because of form over the last few months not these next couple of weeks , doesnt mean anyone is currently out , or in really.
 
WhittlingStick said:
From what i heard in the interview it did sound that ANY changes will be because of form over the last few months not these next couple of weeks , doesnt mean anyone is currently out , or in really.
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Do you honestly think he will select Davies after consistantly ignoring him all season. He along with others in his clique are heavily biased towards the bigger clubs.

Can anyone explain to us why any United player deserves a place other than Rooney?
 
Someone said on 5 Live that Hodgson had told him he's picked his 23 already, which I can believe. But there are always injuries.
 
This is what I reckon he'll go for - I've just got a bad feeling Barkley will miss out:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur).

Midfielders: Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Forwards: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United).


Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Steven Caulker (Cardiff City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Ross Barkley (Everton), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).
 
Can't see him taking Jones, Smalling & Walker. There is no need for Walker as the other 2 can cover RB

I think you are about spot on although it will be a toss up between Cole/Shaw and he will take Lampard/Barkley over Walker
 
I hope he does leave Walker at home and take another midfielder.

Then agin, I hope he does a lot of things he hasn't done and will not do.
 
Irish Tiger said:
Do you honestly think he will select Davies after consistantly ignoring him all season. He along with others in his clique are heavily biased towards the bigger clubs.

Can anyone explain to us why any United player deserves a place other than Rooney?
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Hold on, you're saying 3 Hull City players should go with us in 13th, but only 1 Man United player should go with them in 7th? How does that work?

Tuckin said:
This is what I reckon he'll go for - I've just got a bad feeling Barkley will miss out:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur).

Midfielders: Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Forwards: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United).


Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Steven Caulker (Cardiff City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Ross Barkley (Everton), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).
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I think you've got it about right there, I though I think Caulker and Barkley will both go over Carrick and Smalling.

Davies has been good for us, very good in fact. But I'm still not 100% convinced that he's good enough to go to a World Cup. I think he's in a similar bracket to players like Shawcross, Williamson, Ward that their own fans really rate them but not so much around the rest of the league.
 
Davies Headband said:
Hold on, you're saying 3 Hull City players should go with us in 13th, but only 1 Man United player should go with them in 7th? How does that work?



I think you've got it about right there, I though I think Caulker and Barkley will both go over Carrick and Smalling.

Davies has been good for us, very good in fact. But I'm still not 100% convinced that he's good enough to go to a World Cup. I think he's in a similar bracket to players like Shawcross, Williamson, Ward that their own fans really rate them but not so much around the rest of the league.
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I don't think I've ever met anybody who has really rated Iron Mike, whether you follow Newcastle or not. He's a bit **** and shouldn't be in the same bracket as Davies or Shawcross. Even so, from what I've seen over the course of the season, Davies should be better placed for an England call up than Caulker, but neither should be going to the World Cup and I highly doubt they will.
 
I'd swap Carrick for Lampard, possibly Smalling for Lescott, and I think that will probably be the squad. I'd be happy with it too.

I'd also prefer Andy Carroll ahead of Lambert. Carroll is better in the air and the only time him or Lambert should be on the pitch is when our normal game isn't working and we need something different to mix it up.
 
I gave up on watching/hoping/caring about our national team years ago. A succession of mediocre managers, poor team selection/tactics and a clueless hierarchy that is the FA made it impossible to really be interested except a passing meh every now and again.
 
Charlie1:6426850 said:
I gave up on watching/hoping/caring about our national team years ago. A succession of mediocre managers, poor team selection/tactics and a clueless hierarchy that is the FA made it impossible to really be interested except a passing meh every now and again.
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Bit plastic. Why is it acceptable to to have this attitude towards the national team but not at club level?

Regarding the squad. Why is it generally accepted that we should take one RB and load of **** CBs like Smalling who can also play RB? No one says the same about LB. Everyone agrees we should take two of those so why not RBs?
 
PLT said:
Bit plastic. Why is it acceptable to to have this attitude towards the national team but not at club level?

Regarding the squad. Why is it generally accepted that we should take one RB and load of **** CBs like Smalling who can also play RB? No one says the same about LB. Everyone agrees we should take two of those so why not RBs?
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I'd say it's partly because Jones and Smalling (if he's taking them - not saying I would) have plenty of experience there, and partly because Walker has had an injury-plagued and frankly ropey season and he's not exactly demanding selection. The outstanding RBs in the Premier League this season have been non-English.

None of the CBs who are going are left-footed (Lescott being our of favour), and there's no midfielder either who could fill in there, so two LBs is a must.
 
PLT said:
Bit plastic. Why is it acceptable to to have this attitude towards the national team but not at club level?

Regarding the squad. Why is it generally accepted that we should take one RB and load of **** CBs like Smalling who can also play RB? No one says the same about LB. Everyone agrees we should take two of those so why not RBs?
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Surely being a bit plastic would be not only not supporting England but say supporting another national team that is better than ours for that reason. I don't do that. I am just apathetic about them.
 
Tuckin said:
I'd say it's partly because Jones and Smalling (if he's taking them - not saying I would) have plenty of experience there, and partly because Walker has had an injury-plagued and frankly ropey season and he's not exactly demanding selection. The outstanding RBs in the Premier League this season have been non-English.

None of the CBs who are going are left-footed (Lescott being our of favour), and there's no midfielder either who could fill in there, so two LBs is a must.
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Is Liam Rosenior not English anymore?

I guess Londons so southern, he's practically French...
 
Mr. Hat said:
Is Liam Rosenior not English anymore?

I guess Londons so southern, he's practically French...
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I love Liam - but he's not been one of the Premier League's outstanding right backs. Have you seen how Zabaleta has defended and Coleman has bombed down wings this season?
 
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