Election 2024

[brb]

Bizarre thing is that this is first happening in a country that has 4 national languages ...

I need to read up and understand what they are trying to do and how they will do it and the effects of that on their economy...but can't be arsed at the mo.

The cynic in me just on the face of it ie seeing a right wing party pushing for it, my immediate thought being they are trying to prevent the current demographics of the country changing.

How long before they say X can have one baby in the family, but Y is allowed three and who will be controlling all this.

Like I say, I don't know, just random thoughts.

 

[Diego]

I need to read up and understand what they are trying to do and how they will do it and the effects of that on their economy...but can't be arsed at the mo.

The cynic in me just on the face of it ie seeing a right wing party pushing for it, my immediate thought being they are trying to prevent the current demographics of the country changing.

How long before they say X can have one baby in the family, but Y is allowed three and who will be controlling all this.

Like I say, I don't know, just random thoughts.

Did China do something like this a few decades ago by limiting familys to 2 childrento keep the population stable?
If so it seems to have worked out ok for them.

 

[brb]

Did China do something like this a few decades ago by limiting familys to 2 childrento keep the population stable?
If so it seems to have worked out ok for them.

I believe so mate, they were the only country I could think of that ever did it. Not sure what the background detail was to all this though regarding Ie the government mandatory guidelines and how it was enforced.

 

[Big Ern]

Did China do something like this a few decades ago by limiting familys to 2 childrento keep the population stable?
If so it seems to have worked out ok for them.

no, it was 1 child, and millions of little girls died because of it, as boys were preferable. I think it was that the state would pay for 1, if you had more you had to pay for everything for them yourself.

 

[Diego]

no, it was 1 child, and millions of little girls died because of it, as boys were preferable. I think it was that the state would pay for 1, if you had more you had to pay for everything for them yourself.

Sorry, long time ago and i thought it was 2

 

[brb]

Sorry, long time ago and i thought it was 2

Must admit, I did think it was one, but as I hadn't actually checked then just went with the two as you had said.

So now have done a quick google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

 

[FosseFilberto]

We (current missus) stopped at 2, mainly because of finances - with me already having another from my first marriage - at one point was having to pay 2 mortgages AND rent (whilst building work was going on) - wasn't sustainable - but it was taking responsibility ... which too many people in this country don't do.

Having now (as of this month) seen the last one through Uni, just got the ****ing weddings to come - first one in September 2027

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[Big Ern]

Must admit, I did think it was one, but as I hadn't actually checked then just went with the two as you had said.

So now have done a quick google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

Interesting to see the way they tweaked it over time, obviously a lot of girls were killed in the countryside early on, and special dispensation for minorities to have more, Sucky would hate that. Didn't realise it had carried on until 2015, thought it had ended before that.

 

[PINKIE]

Imogen Foulkes
Reporting fromBern, Switzerland

• • Published
    9 hours ago

Can a country put a fixed limit on its population? That is the question Switzerland will be answering on Sunday when voters go the polls to decide on a proposal to cap their population at 10 million.

The move is backed by the right-wing Swiss People's Party, which describes it as a "sustainability initiative" aimed at easing pressure on housing, public services and the environment.

The Swiss government, all other major parties, business leaders and trade unions have dubbed the proposal a "chaos initiative", arguing it will deprive hospitals and hotels of much needed staff, and damage hard-won relations with the European Union, leaving non-EU member Switzerland isolated in a very risky world.

Switzerland's population has grown rapidly since 2002, when it stood at 7.3 million. Now it is 9.1 million, 27% of whom are foreign residents.

Many voters are concerned by overcrowded trains, expensive apartments and rising health costs.

The latest opinion polls indicate this could be a very close vote.

Switzerland to vote on plan to cap population at 10 million

The right-wing Swiss People's Party calls the plan a "sustainability initiative", but opponents say it is a recipe for chaos.

www.bbc.co.uk

the Swiss have legalised assisted dying so they can just knock off the old folk and employ Sudanese healthcare workers instead and everybody’s happy

 

[FosseFilberto]

the Swiss have legalised assisted dying so they can just knock off the old folk and employ Sudanese healthcare workers instead and everybody’s happy

... but who will make the chocolate?

 

[brb]

the Swiss have legalised assisted dying so they can just knock off the old folk and employ Sudanese healthcare workers instead and everybody’s happy

If they are capping the population can't see them letting anyone in to live. Btw only 995 Sudanese citizens live there, compared to 35,000 in the UK and 0 in Cornwall. That last number I made up but is probably right, unless he owns this bike...

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[Welshie]

Did China do something like this a few decades ago by limiting familys to 2 childrento keep the population stable?
If so it seems to have worked out ok for them.

That policy was a disaster and quickly removed.

It led to a population imbalance which has had negative effects.

 

[FosseFilberto]

If they are capping the population can't see them letting anyone in to live. Btw only 995 Sudanese citizens live there, compared to 35,000 in the UK and 0 in Cornwall. That last number I made up but is probably right, unless he owns this bike...

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That's more a Ponkingnese bike mate ...

 

[brb]

That's more a Ponkingnese bike mate ...

Probably measuring up the land to see how many Lorry containters he can get on there.

 

[Archers Road]

Bizarre thing is that this is first happening in a country that has 4 national languages ...

And more cows than people

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

The ‘carnival of anti-fascism’ is in town today along with a small anti-immigration protest which always ends with about six blokes surrounded by police being screamed at by blue-haired lesbians.

Anyway they’ve ended up barricading themselves into the pub we meet at for QPR games. Feel bad for my mate who runs it as it’ll inevitably look like they were hosting them.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/26191919.anti-immigrant-protesters-trapped-sussex-yeoman-pub/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaASaOl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEewvHkbJvVu2pqPV7eSIP83w-xd3FBk0sMXLS9bAupD54I8n16TrfgptyyE-I_aem_s7tLY-jljhjTD6xKj50KGw#Echobox=1781351692

 

[PINKIE]

That policy was a disaster and quickly removed.

It led to a population imbalance which has had negative effects.

China, along with a lot of developed nations, now have a falling birth rate and an ageing population, which is all stacking up to a massive gap in the workforce, stagnating economies, loss of revenue in the tax base to fund health and social care.

A lot of folk don’t want to hear it, but immigration is the solution to staffing the jobs these countries need and relieving the pressures outlined above.

It’s a conversation all developed nations need to have with their electorate, but nobody really wants to address because political narrative is being dominated by anti immigration.

 

[PINKIE]

The ‘carnival of anti-fascism’ is in town today along with a small anti-immigration protest which always ends with about six blokes surrounded by police being screamed at by blue-haired lesbians.

Anyway they’ve ended up barricading themselves into the pub we meet at for QPR games. Feel bad for my mate who runs it as it’ll inevitably look like they were hosting them.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/26191919.anti-immigrant-protesters-trapped-sussex-yeoman-pub/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaASaOl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEewvHkbJvVu2pqPV7eSIP83w-xd3FBk0sMXLS9bAupD54I8n16TrfgptyyE-I_aem_s7tLY-jljhjTD6xKj50KGw#Echobox=1781351692

I see that dickhead from raise the colours got nicked again. Was giving it the big un because he had his security with him, then tried to start handing out slaps and got himself nicked

Prick

 

[Archers Road]

The ‘carnival of anti-fascism’ is in town today along with a small anti-immigration protest which always ends with about six blokes surrounded by police being screamed at by blue-haired lesbians.

Anyway they’ve ended up barricading themselves into the pub we meet at for QPR games. Feel bad for my mate who runs it as it’ll inevitably look like they were hosting them.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/26191919.anti-immigrant-protesters-trapped-sussex-yeoman-pub/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaASaOl5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEewvHkbJvVu2pqPV7eSIP83w-xd3FBk0sMXLS9bAupD54I8n16TrfgptyyE-I_aem_s7tLY-jljhjTD6xKj50KGw#Echobox=1781351692

Would be a strange kind of irony if the pub got burned down

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Would be a strange kind of irony if the pub got burned down

Think they’ve been given a police escort to the station and stuck on a train. Regardless of your politics, could you be arsed? Saturday, good weather, Qatar v Switzerland to look forward to.