Election 2024

[Welshie]

Indeed. He's a bloke who loves a conspiracy theory and has surrounded himself with similar minded people. RFK is another one, anti-vax, chemtrail nutjob.

The problem with the set up with US govt too is that they don't have a civil service or a team of advisors who've been in the job for decades, that can guide them through current policies, relationships with other countries etc. They just hoof one lot out and then shoehorn another bunch in and this time, Trump has picked the most sycophantic team of yes men and women he could assemble.

Then, as you say, his comms strategy seems to be making decisions at 7am on the ****ter, and then randomly posting some ****e on his Truth social without actually consulting with anybody in his team and letting them try to piece together whatever the **** he's just dreamed up, only to bin it off 48 hours later

There is stability in the civil service which is very welcome.

It's that which stops you ****ting your pants at the thought of Reform victory. You know that they have a massive team of established experts who will take over their half baked policies.

Trump just has a bunch of people without a clue.

I honestly thought he'd have the backbone to keep going with these tariffs lol, apparently not. Tool.

 

[PINKIE]

The enormous hypocrisy of his comment aside (of course no one has disrespected world markets more than Trump)- he's not 100% wrong. China frequently highly subsidizes emerging technologies and products (famous examples: solar panels, electric cars) and so is able to make them far more affordably than other nations with the intention of once they have cornered the market they then stop the subsidies.

What Trump is doing isn't helping with that. He could just tax those highly subsidize predatory goods and that would be much more effective. His across the board tariffs really are just a misguided form of fiscal warfare.

I get why other countries don't like that, because a Govt heavily subsidising and giving low to zero interest loans to businesses that produce stuff, does skew the market when that country can produce stuff a lot cheaper, especially when wages are much lower too.

But you can see why China do it, and you can't blame them. They just see a way to give their industries a leg up and in return collect taxes on them for the Chinese economy. Trump can cry about it, but I don't doubt he would do the same if he could (He can't because US wages wouldn't cope with it)

Having said that, it reminded me of a meme I saw today. It was AI, but it had loads of fat Americans working in sweat shops making underwear and in factories soldering electronic components, all struggling to keep up with the pace of the work lol

 

[Milk..]

I get why other countries don't like that, because a Govt heavily subsidising and giving low to zero interest loans to businesses that produce stuff, does skew the market when that country can produce stuff a lot cheaper, especially when wages are much lower too.

But you can see why China do it, and you can't blame them. They just see a way to give their industries a leg up and in return collect taxes on them for the Chinese economy.

Oh of course you can't blame them.. and America does it too... Maize is so highly subsidized. Farmers growing maize in the US get more money from the government than they do selling the maize. That's one of my biggest pet peeves... if US Government wants to subsidize farming- can't we subsidize something more healthy...

Having said that, it reminded me of a meme I saw today. It was AI, but it had loads of fat Americans working in sweat shops making underwear and in factories soldering electronic components, all struggling to keep up with the pace of the work lol

Yeah, that was posted to the Liverpool board too... Those are the kind of jobs Trump wants to bring back. Who wants a low wage repetitive assembly line job in 2025, Why are we trying to bring that kind of job back?

 

[brb]

My wife drives a Toyota RAV4- they're made in two factories for our market here. One in Canada and one in the US. When I bought hers I checked the VIN to make sure hers was a Canadian built one. The Canadian built ones have far fewer reliability issues. Should be the same vehicle, but Canadian ones are just built better.

Saw similar things online when buying my Civic. The Japanese built ones have better reliability to the ones built in the US.

I couldn't tell you why this is. Why US has more defects than other countries.

I get why he's upset over America not producing it's own cars for American's to buy, ffs you are a population of over 300 million people so it should be within the American capacity - but you are right, most of what America made was unrealiable junk, and everyone else saw the opening for some great trade, Canada being the example. The crazy part about all this, everything that allows Canada to make those cars criss crosses the states half a dozen times down to Mexico and back.

This wasn't the example I was looking for, can't find it, but it explains what I'm getting at...

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/trump-tariffs-car-part-crosses-canada-us-mexico-borders-7-times

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[PINKIE]

Yeah, that was posted to the Liverpool board too... Those are the kind of jobs Trump wants to bring back. Who wants a low wage repetitive assembly line job in 2025, Why are we trying to bring that kind of job back?

That's what robots are for aren't they ? To make all of our stuff and give humans time for leisure to pursue the arts and creativity

Looks like AI has ****ed us right over, as it is the one making all of the art, whilst Janice is working 3 jobs to pay the rent lol

 

[duggie2000]

Everyone should come to the Garden of England, only it's not a garden anymore, it's just one massive ****ing housing estate.

Kent Garden Village

 

[brb]

Kent Garden Village

They'll only get it if they put in another motorway link, tbph that stretch of motorway there is well out of date by ****ing decades and an accident blackspot, I've lost count the number of deaths on that bit. I'd make them put the links in first, but it still don't overcome the problems that the motorway is only 2 lanes there and is long overdue widening, and going to be made worse by building absolutely thousands of new houses.

At least with Ebbsfleet it did have lots of new restructuring...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp31v8207peo

 

[Chief]

The cave thing? Nah not then but I took my nipper there a few years back on yours and Fosse's recommendation.

Nah, different one.

That's Dan Yr Ogof. Also struggling I think.

The one I'm on about is a so **** it's great type place.
We got a season ticket one year, when all three kids were young. They loved it, the dinosaurs were laughable though.

Good day out.

 

[BobbyD]

I was lucky with my kids because we had use of a private pool through someone we knew, so they learned before they even went to school. Even so, I still watched them, even when they were a little older, the buggers use to see how long they could stay under water lol.

very common. I used to do that in my school swim sessions

 

[BobbyD]

Dow Jones has shot up in response to a 90 day pause on tariffs, except for China lol

overpriced imo. It's not actually a 90 day pause. It's a 90 day pause on the high tariffs. It's still a blanket 10% on everyone

 

[BobbyD]

The enormous hypocrisy of his comment aside (of course no one has disrespected world markets more than Trump)- he's not 100% wrong. China frequently highly subsidizes emerging technologies and products (famous examples: solar panels, electric cars) and so is able to make them far more affordably than other nations with the intention of once they have cornered the market they then stop the subsidies.

What Trump is doing isn't helping with that. He could just tax those highly subsidize predatory goods and that would be much more effective. His across the board tariffs really are just a misguided form of fiscal warfare.

I'm sure its the same for most 1st world countries except that i know trump is shutting all this down

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[Milk..]

Thing is with the States, you can't really drink alcohol anyway, because you got to drive back to your hotel or villa afterwards. Although wet n wild was on International Drive so there were a lot of hotels in close vicinity or them trolley buses. I'm not sure if that water park is still there, I'm sure I heard it was to close down some years back.....will need to go and google...

Just checked, closed in 2016 and was replaced by another water park owned by Universal...

https://allears.net/2023/07/06/what-happened-to-wet-n-wild-in-orlando/

I go to a conference every year or two at Universal. Most of the universal hotels have busses to that park (and not been to that park) but it's perfectly walkable from the universal hotels to the other parks, I'm assuming that one is too.

On the topic of swimming pools (I somehow missed earlier). It's ironic that in the US with almost every neighbourhood having a pool and lots of people having private pools (I have an above ground pool at my place although not really big enough for any serious swimming)- so many people can't swim. You certainly won't learn to swim in school. Looked it up- 1.59 people die per 100,000 each year in the SC. 5.47 million population... so doing the maths that's 87 people a year every year. (that is a drop from 4 per 100k a decade ago- so until recently more than twice that many)

I've had to rescue a kid on more than one occasion in the neighbourhood pool at my last house. Some of these teens that don't know how to swim... they'll go to a pool and don't want to appear "weak" so they'll go deeper than they should with no floatation and then struggle and their parents at the edge of the pool may or may not be there watching, but if they can't swim either they're not much help.

 

[Milk..]

I'm sure its the same for most 1st world countries except that i know trump is shutting all this down

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Absolutely, although those both are small numbers in comparison to $546 billion China has subsidized the industry according to google.

Nonetheless, that's China's right- and if someone wanted to protect that industry at home, you can put tariffs just on the impacted industry, not the economy as a whole.

What you can't do, of course, is make your domestic industry competitive in other countries if they're subsidized.

 

[brb]

I go to a conference every year or two at Universal. Most of the universal hotels have busses to that park (and not been to that park) but it's perfectly walkable from the universal hotels to the other parks, I'm assuming that one is too.

On the topic of swimming pools (I somehow missed earlier). It's ironic that in the US with almost every neighbourhood having a pool and lots of people having private pools (I have an above ground pool at my place although not really big enough for any serious swimming)- so many people can't swim. You certainly won't learn to swim in school. Looked it up- 1.59 people die per 100,000 each year in the SC. 5.47 million population... so doing the maths that's 87 people a year every year. (that is a drop from 4 per 100k a decade ago- so until recently more than twice that many)

I've had to rescue a kid on more than one occasion in the neighbourhood pool at my last house. Some of these teens that don't know how to swim... they'll go to a pool and don't want to appear "weak" so they'll go deeper than they should with no floatation and then struggle and their parents at the edge of the pool may or may not be there watching, but if they can't swim either they're not much help.

I quite liked the Universal Hotel, probably one of my favourites, because you can do everything without needing to drive. So it allows for time relaxing round a pool, also has a pool bar, so you can have beers in the knowledge you will not have to drive, food was reasonably priced, burgers and usual easy takeaway stuff, and then easy access to the two parks a riverboat ride away. Also ideal in the evening when it comes alive again.

That newish Universal water park, that replaced Wet and Wild on International drive, seeing the pics reminds me very much of Blizzard Beach but that's Disney. Thinking back I think Blizzard Beach was my favourite, I think that's because it was quite new at the time.

 

[brb]

Absolutely, although those both are small numbers in comparison to $546 billion China has subsidized the industry according to google.

Nonetheless, that's China's right- and if someone wanted to protect that industry at home, you can put tariffs just on the impacted industry, not the economy as a whole.

What you can't do, of course, is make your domestic industry competitive in other countries if they're subsidized.

Must admit I do get pissed off with anti Chinese rhetoric all the time, and not just from Trump. I was listening to a British media interview today with a Chinese spokesperson, and you could sense the tone all the time in the interview, Chinese this, Chinese that, I know the journalist has to do that, but I'm like the only person to blame here is Trump, as you say it's China's right and if everyone is buying their goods and steel, who's to blame, just because they are subsidising it don't mean you have to buy it, but if you do you made your choice and then can't blame them for your own industry going under. At least China haven't be rising to the bolloxs within their language, they just go fair enough, we will put our tariffs up as well.

I think Trump is picking a fight he can't win here, dickhead!

 

[brb]

Soon be 600 pages

Was this the thread I stole from @Sucky ?

 

[brb]

overpriced imo. It's not actually a 90 day pause. It's a 90 day pause on the high tariffs. It's still a blanket 10% on everyone

I hadn't realised this, so he hasn't done the UK any favours at all, if everyone is 10% for the 90 days.

 

[Sucky]

Soon be 600 pages

Was this the thread I stole from @Sucky ?

This
And crime part one
And at least 2 other threads

Or maybe deleted them Cba checking

 

[Big Ern]

There is stability in the civil service which is very welcome.

It's that which stops you ****ting your pants at the thought of Reform victory. You know that they have a massive team of established experts who will take over their half baked policies.

Trump just has a bunch of people without a clue.

I honestly thought he'd have the backbone to keep going with these tariffs lol, apparently not. Tool.

Or he's pump n dumping the stock exchange.

 

[pieguts]

Thing is with the States, you can't really drink alcohol anyway, because you got to drive back to your hotel or villa afterwards. Although wet n wild was on International Drive so there were a lot of hotels in close vicinity or them trolley buses. I'm not sure if that water park is still there, I'm sure I heard it was to close down some years back.....will need to go and google...

Just checked, closed in 2016 and was replaced by another water park owned by Universal...

https://allears.net/2023/07/06/what-happened-to-wet-n-wild-in-orlando/

From memory Wet and Wild is now apartments. The new Universal water park is pretty good TBF