Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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I read he hasn't talked to Trump over the weekend - mate, if I was about to resign, I wouldn't even consider wasting my time chatting to that stinky bloated old ****.

Cos Starmer didn't help him with Iran, he's on one on his social media slamming him. Trumps a prick.
I think Starmer is the sort of guy that would do the courtesy thing of letting the US President know, just because of the way protocol rolls, rather than massaging Trumps ego... but he clearly couldn't wait to blag about it.

At least Starmer can walk away with head held high and no bitterness, and to be fair to him, he's shown none, he's been polite throughout the whole course of this charade.

I'll just wait for the time when the media will carve up Burnham now. I still can't see what he brings to the table, I just see him as another backstabber in the same mould that I casted Michael Gove, when he did this to Boris.
 
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Starmer would have been a good Chancellor or Home Secretary.
I could see from the recent G7, Starmer isn't a great one for casual conversation, I wonder if he's more relaxed when the cameras aren't around. So for all my doubts about Burnham, he'll be a better more chilled out communicator.
 
I think Starmer is the sort of guy that would do the courtesy thing of letting the US President know, just because of the way protocol rolls, rather than massaging Trumps ego... but he clearly couldn't wait to blag about it.

At least Starmer can walk away with head held high and no bitterness, and to be fair to him, he's shown none, he's been polite throughout the whole course of this charade.

I'll just wait for the time when the media will carve up Burnham now. I still can't see what he brings to the table, I just see him as another backstabber in the same mould that I casted Michael Gove, when he did this to Boris.

If people don't want backstabbing, they shouldn't be in politics. Full stop.

There's no senior politician that isn't a shark sniffing the blood, Gove saw a chance to be in number 10, obviously he's going to shoot his shot. He had absolutely no reason what so ever to support Boris. Whats Boris ever done for Gove?

In the same vein, Burnham left the Commons and has built a brand, he's never been supported by Starmer and like wise Starmer has never taken anything from Burnham. There's no personal or processional relationship there, they're just both Labour politicians.

I think Keir made the first strategic mistake when he blocked the Gorton and Denton by-election, he should have let Burnham run back then before the May elections and stuck him in the cabinet.

By delaying it until after the disaster locals he signed his death warrant.
 
If people don't want backstabbing, they shouldn't be in politics. Full stop.

There's no senior politician that isn't a shark sniffing the blood, Gove saw a chance to be in number 10, obviously he's going to shoot his shot. He had absolutely no reason what so ever to support Boris. Whats Boris ever done for Gove?

In the same vein, Burnham left the Commons and has built a brand, he's never been supported by Starmer and like wise Starmer has never taken anything from Burnham. There's no personal or processional relationship there, they're just both Labour politicians.

I think Keir made the first strategic mistake when he blocked the Gorton and Denton by-election, he should have let Burnham run back then before the May elections and stuck him in the cabinet.

By delaying it until after the disaster locals he signed his death warrant.
It's alright mate, you don't have to explain yourself, it's all been noted, endorsed and rubber stamped by Welshie....we'll all know where to come when it goes tits up. <laugh>
 
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I feel for Starmer. He hasn't done a lot wrong and has been quietly and slowly getting on with making progress

But we live in world where politics is pantomime and the mob have decided that he's not fit for the job

His back benchers haven't helped either. I think in some ways that massive majority has worked against him, because Labour MPs know that there's enough of them to get legislation through, and it affords some of them the room to be rebels.

If they had a small majority, they could have probably whipped them better, to make sure they voted with the govt.

Whatever the analysis, it's an unfortunate facet of modern political life, that when your stock is in decline, it's usually the beginning of the end.