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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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Peej said:
just for perspective, the petition to rejoin the EU got 6,000,000 signatures. It wasn’t discussed.

this will be the same.
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16 million voted to stay in the EU.

You’ve lost 10 million supporters, then <laugh>

That ship has sailed mate. I’d just forget it, we ain’t going back.
 
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Peej said:
just for perspective, the petition to rejoin the EU got 6,000,000 signatures. It wasn’t discussed.

this will be the same.
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So why you taking any notice of that shhite, you need to take your head out the rabbit holes instead of coming across like a snidy kunt. This is the problem with these discussions you bring the vindictiveness here. Fook off to GC if you can't convo without being a prick.
 
brb said:
This was part of one suggestion I had, about looking at the timing of sales - surely that is the best way to catch them and I assume Clarkson would fall into that category, I only say assume because I have no actual idea when he bought it.

The same would apply to this guy Lowe that Peej was going on about - I read something after he mentioned the name to me, about buying land for horses or something, so it's clear it's not for farming in the true sense of the word.

It seems to be the thing for everyone to hate farmers. I'm sure most small holders these days have disappeared monopolised by the EU, or that's the way it often feels to me, give priority to the mass producers while walking over the small man.
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Yeah, they’ve been pushed out for a while and they play such a crucial role in our society and for our economy.

I’ve come to know a farmer in my village and he’s genuinely devastated by this. The family have owned the farm for 140 years. He’ll be the last owner. He can’t pass it on to his lads because they’ve not got the money to pay the bill. It’ll be gone. Probably to a mega corporation and all my local food will now come sprayed with all sorts of unhealthy ****e.

He can’t just liquidate some of his assets to pay the bill. That would be machinery and land. Everything you need to actually farm.
 
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Saf said:
16 million voted to stay in the EU.

You’ve lost 10 million supporters, then <laugh>

That ship has sailed mate. I’d just forget it, we ain’t going back.
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that was just the silly people who signed a petition. I accepted it pal, was a democratic vote.

same with the GE. Can’t be doing this **** every time something goes the opposite way of what you wanted.
 
Saf said:
Yeah, they’ve been pushed out for a while and they play such a crucial role in our society and for our economy.

I’ve come to know a farmer in my village and he’s genuinely devastated by this. The family have owned the farm for 140 years. He’ll be the last owner. He can’t pass it on to his lads because they’ve not got the money to pay the bill. It’ll be gone. Probably to a mega corporation and all my local food will now come sprayed with all sorts of unhealthy ****e.

He can’t just liquidate some of his assets to pay the bill. That would be machinery and land. Everything you need to actually farm.
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Yeah that's all I ever concern myself with is the smaller farmers, it's always the way I've wanted it to be, anything we can produce do it locally and without the slave labour that occurred while in the EU. Lorry drivers and farmhands paid less than the minimum wage and abused - it was an absolute pisstake, and because it kept prices down, no one cared about them, there were no unions protecting them.
 
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brb said:
So why you taking any notice of that shhite, you need to take your head out the rabbit holes instead of coming across like a snidy kunt. This is the problem with these discussions you bring the vindictiveness here. Fook off to GC if you can't convo without being a prick.
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There is nothing snide in the discussion.
 
duggie2000 said:
AND if that report is true she was sacked for taking excessive sick leave to do Local Council work to further her political career
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Doubt it will come to much mate. I wouldn't really want her moved from her post, I can't be arsed with these muscial chairs like we saw with the Tories, it don't help the country, she knows her job I would prefer her to stay in it. I think if you keep someone in their role you can hold them to better accountability.
 
Saf said:
I personally think we should give exceptions to farmers. It’s a really important job they do and it’s not the greatest reward, at the best of time. It’s probably the only industry I know where the seller gets told how much he’s getting for his/her product.

The farmers should be rounding up on Clarkson. He’s the arsehole that has caused us all this happening. The Labour government have acted really cowardly over this. They should have targeted folk like Clarkson but instead have cover blanketed every farmer in the UK and it’s the utter pits.

Most farms are passed down through generations of families. Why couldn’t the government have said show us your 25/50 year farming history on your land and the exemptions will carry on? That would have sorted the crooks out from the genuine farming families about to get hammered.

Personally I hate IHT. I’ve always been against. I don’t see what right the government has to take a chunk out of family life savings away when someone dies. That money has been worked for and already taxed.
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Contrary to what the billionaire who owns your preferred media company is telling you, that's exactly who Labour have gone after. Most working farmers won't be affected at all, as the tax doesn't kick in until the estate is valued at more then 3 million. So if a 'poor' farmer has an estate valued at 3.5 million, they'll only be taxed on the .5, if their estate is valued at 2.5, they won't be taxed at all, but the Dysons And Clarksons will get hit with the tax bill they thought they had evaded.
 
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Big Ern said:
Contrary to what the billionaire who owns your preferred media company is telling you, that's exactly who Labour have gone after. Most working farmers won't be affected at all, as the tax doesn't kick in until the estate is valued at more then 3 million. So if a 'poor' farmer has an estate valued at 3.5 million, they'll only be taxed on the .5, if their estate is valued at 2.5, they won't be taxed at all, but the Dysons And Clarksons will get hit with the tax bill they thought they had evaded.
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Diddly Squat no more
 
Saf said:
The majority of farming families are asset rich, not cash rich.

The Labour lot were right behind the train drivers who are already on a good wage. Then the teachers were supported.

The farmers should strike for a couple weeks and withhold their produce. See how long it takes for the Labour lot to change their attitudes towards them.
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Most people in the UK aren’t cash rich. Their wealth, like the farmers, come from assets such as home ownership. That won’t stop the government from taking a large slice of that wealth as inheritance tax. I struggle to understand why farmers should be treated any differently. They’ve got a good deal in my book. Only being liable above £3M and then at 20%.
 
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