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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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and this is what is frustrating part, people constantly sticking other people under certain banners, when it is a case of not in my backyard across many parts of the country. It's easy to say someone from Kent is a racist, because they complain about the uncontrolled migration into Dover, when it dosen't affect their resources over in Cornwall/Wales/Liverpool blah blah blah. Let the boats rock up into some nice part of Cornwall or those few areas of lovely Wales, you'd soon see attitudes change. Especially if 800+ a day start rocking up on dinghies.

There's plenty of people down here who share those views too. I think a lot of people see it as a UK issue rather than a regional issue. But I think the South West takes more asylum seekers than any other region other than London and the South East
 
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I missed this but it’s a really good point.

9 times out of 10, I go to the bookies these days. It’s far easier to place bigger bets and more regular bets online. It’s just numbers on a screen. I don’t blink if im putting 50 quid on a horse through my online account. It’s a total different feeling to pulling 50 quid cash out my back pocket and handing it over to someone in a shop. It does stop you in your tracks and makes you become hesitant.

yeah deffo makes a huge difference numbers on the screen.

I've made some shockingly large bets which i would never ever contemplate if it was in cold hard cash.
 
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Yeah I would like to add to Saf's and Bobby's comments, that when I mentioned betting, now thinking about it I was referring to online betting, think I just assumed people rarely go in shops these days.
 
yeah deffo makes a huge difference numbers on the screen.

I've made some shockingly large bets which i would never ever contemplate if it was in cold hard cash.

When I was growing up there was a Chinese restaurant over the road from the William Hill in Stanmore. Some of the staff would get paid cash and lose a fortune on roulette and go back to work. The good old days were gambling addiction would be in the open. Now it’s just betting on a Uruguayan table tennis tournament at 3am.
 
Yeah I would like to add to Saf's and Bobby's comments, that when I mentioned betting, now thinking about it I was referring to online betting, think I just assumed people rarely go in shops these days.

It’s a shame the shops are slowly disappearing. A sort of community hub for old boys putting their £1 each way on every race to stay warm.
 
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When I was growing up there was a Chinese restaurant over the road from the William Hill in Stanmore. Some of the staff would get paid cash and lose a fortune on roulette and go back to work. The good old days were gambling addiction would be in the open. Now it’s just betting on a Uruguayan table tennis tournament at 3am.

still loads of them that go to the bookies now haha.

Yeah, online betting globalising it is bad. Theres literally football everyday at all hours. Under 21 matches, Football in asia, Football in south america, womens football. They even televise a load of amateur matches on bet365
 
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Anyway, as much as we moan about our own politicians and the various perceived failings of Starmer and Sunak...

Did anybody see the US presidential debate ? ****in hell man. The choice the yanks have is truly frightening.
 
still loads of them that go to the bookies now haha.

Yeah, online betting globalising it is bad. Theres literally football everyday at all hours. Under 21 matches, Football in asia, Football in south america, womens football. They even televise a load of amateur matches on bet365

Virtual racing and football if there isn’t.
 
Anyway, as much as we moan about our own politicians and the various perceived failings of Starmer and Sunak...

Did anybody see the US presidential debate ? ****in hell man. The choice the yanks have is truly frightening.

nope, can't be watching that ****e. Although i do love staying up watching all the votes get counted in both the UK and US elections
 
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Anyway, as much as we moan about our own politicians and the various perceived failings of Starmer and Sunak...

Did anybody see the US presidential debate ? ****in hell man. The choice the yanks have is truly frightening.

Appalling.

Biden was so poor that I just thought "yeah, I mean, I see why Trump convinces so many."

Man could barely talk.
 
Anyway, as much as we moan about our own politicians and the various perceived failings of Starmer and Sunak...

Did anybody see the US presidential debate ? ****in hell man. The choice the yanks have is truly frightening.

Nah I never saw it in the early hours, might just look at the news thinking about, just to see who insulted who the most, and if Biden could actually find the podium, or whether he was dosed up to the eyeballs to appear normal. I don't have to worry the same with Trump, everyone knows he's not normal and no amount of medication is likely to help him.
 
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nope, can't be watching that ****e. Although i do love staying up watching all the votes get counted in both the UK and US elections

Yeah I’m not weird enough for an election party but might do an all-nighter on the 4th. More likely see the exit poll and fall asleep on the couch.
 
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nope, can't be watching that ****e. Although i do love staying up watching all the votes get counted in both the UK and US elections

I've only seen the catch up this morning, but it was a woeful indictment on where US politics is at.

Biden, is probably a safe pair of hands in terms of US policy (or his team is), but the guy is just too old, he's 81 now and he should just retire. As a result of his performance, it just enabled Trump to spew lies, which Biden didn't have the wherewithal to counter.

The democrats should have nominated a younger more dynamic candidate, because Trump is easy pickings for anybody with their wits about them as he talks complete and utter bollocks
 
I've only seen the catch up this morning, but it was a woeful indictment on where US politics is at.

Biden, is probably a safe pair of hands in terms of US policy (or his team is), but the guy is just too old, he's 81 now and he should just retire. As a result of his performance, it just enabled Trump to spew lies, which Biden didn't have the wherewithal to counter.

The democrats should have nominated a younger more dynamic candidate, because Trump is easy pickings for anybody with their wits about them as he talks complete and utter bollocks

People characterize trump as a buffoon but, he picked his time well to run against Hilary Clinton. I think he's so persistent re running against Biden because he knows the man just doesn't stand a chance.
 
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Nah I never saw it in the early hours, might just look at the news thinking about, just to see who insulted who the most, and if Biden could actually find the podium, or whether he was dosed up to the eyeballs to appear normal. I don't have to worry the same with Trump, everyone knows he's not normal and no amount of medication is likely to help him.

Biden was a mess. The guys is clearly past it and should let a younger candidate lead the Democrats.

It's pretty tragic really, because factually Biden is right on a lot of what he says, whereas Trump just spouts what's going on in his head, a lot of which is just obvious nonsense.

But when you have an old man who is clearly struggling to get his words out, it just looks like he's no longer capable, and that hands the incentive to somebody who can get away with blatant lies.
 
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People characterize trump as a buffoon but, he picked his time well to run against Hilary Clinton. I think he's so persistent re running against Biden because he knows the man just doesn't stand a chance.

I don't think Trump is a Buffoon, I think he's an opportunist. A bit like Boris (who did play the buffoon card) He'll seize on popularist topics to enable his own grapple for power.

Didn't Trump once say in an interview years ago that if he ever got into Politics, he'd run as a Republican candidate as 'they are the dumbest voters'
And I remember Boris being a champion of the EU and the single market, before he used Brexit as a tool to get himself elected.

Opportunists.
 
People characterize trump as a buffoon but, he picked his time well to run against Hilary Clinton. I think he's so persistent re running against Biden because he knows the man just doesn't stand a chance.

I find it both sad and embarrassing when Biden attends big events - I watched him in Italy in the recent summit in Puglia, you could see his mind had completely wandered and his bodily movement with it, Giorgia Meloni had spotted what was happening and had to subtly go over and engage his focus back into the group. While that dumbarse von der shhite, just stood next to him clueless. I know Biden is only a face, but when other world leaders are having to carry him through boring schedules, it's time for the man to put his feet up. Are we really going to wait for this guy keel over or piss himself on live tv, it will be so degrading for the man.
 
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