Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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brb said:
Yup, agree again mate, you win nowt by name calling, have a sensible conversation and people will listen, talk about people in a derogatory manner and they will rebel.
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You obviously haven't been paying much attention for the last 10 years.
 
I see that Tommeh and the lads spent the day crying about Muslims and finished the day off with a good old English curry

Hopefully one day that **** will choke to death on his lamb samosa
 
brb said:
Wes Streeting confirms he wants to stand in any leadership contest and rejoin the EU. #****
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This is a really weird decision and probably kills whatever slims chances he had before we get within a mile of voting for him.

Unless he's basically given up on the traditional Labour heartlands and conceded that they'll go to Reform and Restore?

Difficult to see where he'd go from there to muster a clear majority. Might pinch a bunch of votes off the Greens and Lib Dems but the Tories will challenge the latter strongly and although Streeting is gay he'll never be pink peroxide pro Palestine gay enough for most Green voters.

So he's basically divided his own vote before he's even started. Peculiar man.

Burnham is the only one I'd trust to take the party back to its traditional values and core principles and in doing so, he can take votes from across the political spectrum.
 
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Citizen Kane. said:
This is a really weird decision and probably kills whatever slims chances he had before we get within a mile of voting for him.

Unless he's basically given up on the traditional Labour heartlands and conceded that they'll go to Reform and Restore?

Difficult to see where he'd go from there to muster a clear majority. Might pinch a bunch of votes off the Greens and Lib Dems but the Tories will challenge the latter strongly and although Streeting is gay he'll never be pink peroxide pro Palestine gay enough for most Green voters.

So he's basically divided his own vote before he's even started. Peculiar man.

Burnham is the only one I'd trust to take the party back to its traditional values and core principles and in doing so, he can take votes from across the political he spectrum.
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I wondered if Streeting only entered the race in case Burnham's chances failed in the by-election.

Like a back up plan to ensure whatever happens there's enough people putting in a challenge to get Starmer out - would seem sensible to have a plan B for the party if they are embarking on this road.

No suggestion AB will fail, but you can't completely dismiss the probability either. Reform will probably chuck everything at it. So it's sensible tactics to prepare for the what if.

I don't particularly like Wes, he don't offend me or nowt, I just think he's a bit of a gasbag but IF he gets results that's all that matters.

As for his sexuality it's never ever crossed my mind about him being gay, nor have I ever tried to look what his personal life is about. I wouldn't see him as a Green either, just because he's gay.

Clearly coming out that WS wants to put us back in the EU, means I would never vote for him, and I've made that clear numerous times that I would not vote for a politician that uttered those words. It is what it is.

I'm still not against Labour and I don't particularly think Starmer should be removed, mainly because it's just more infighting - however, if it came to stopping us rejoining the EU I would vote for whatever party tried to ensure that didn't happen...

Yes, even Reform, I don't like Farage, I'm not happy about the £5M he was gifted, I think he should be suspended from Parliament and never be allowed to stand again.

BUT, I have my opinions and political thoughts, which I've explained way too many times and it's my democratic right as much as anyone others to cast my vote in favour of what I believe in, if it means doing a deal with the devil so be it.

To extend that above thought process, I expect Reform and Tories will do a pact eventually, so I could vote Tory as a protest vote. We've been here so many times.

However, back to Andy Burnham I'm sure he will approach the EU stance a tad more sensibly and will not use it as an opportunity to win votes, unlike his fellow party collegue, so I remain open minded towards him.
 
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brb said:
I wondered if Streeting only entered the race in case Burnham's chances failed in the by-election.

Like a back up plan to ensure whatever happens there's enough people putting in a challenge to get Starmer out - would seem sensible to have a plan B for the party if they are embarking on this road.

No suggestion AB will fail, but you can't completely dismiss the probability either. Reform will probably chuck everything at it. So it's sensible tactics to prepare for the what if.

I don't particularly like Wes, he don't offend me or nowt, I just think he's a bit of a gasbag but IF he gets results that's all that matters.

As for his sexuality it's never ever crossed my mind about him being gay, nor have I ever tried to look what his personal life is about. I wouldn't see him as a Green either, just because he's gay.

Clearly coming out that WS wants to put us back in the EU, means I would never vote for him, and I've made that clear numerous times that I would not vote for a politician that uttered those words. It is what it is.

I'm still not against Labour and I don't particularly think Starmer should be removed, mainly because it's just more infighting - however, if it came to stopping us rejoining the EU I would vote for whatever party tried to ensure that didn't happen...

Yes, even Reform, I don't like Farage, I'm not happy about the £5M he was gifted, I think he should be suspended from Parliament and never be allowed to stand again.

BUT, I have my opinions and political thoughts, which I've explained way too many times and it's my democratic right as much as anyone others to cast my vote in favour of what I believe in, if it means doing a deal with the devil so be it.

To extend that above thought process, I expect Reform and Tories will do a pact eventually, so I could votte Tory as a protest vote.

However, back to Andy Burnham I'm sure he will approach the EU stance a tad more sensibly and will not use it as an opportunity to win votes, unlike his fellow party collegue, so I remain open minded towards him.
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Partly probably that he knows his seat is a big risk as it stands. A slim chance now but probably the only one he’ll ever get to be PM. Nothing to really lose. Maybe he eventually stands aside in exchange for a nice gig as part of Burnham’s Cabinet.
 
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According to his one-time friend Owen Jones, Streeting has always been clear about his ambition to be PM.

Associating himself with rejoining the EU is a calculated gamble to win the Labour Centrist vote; will it work? Not if Burnham's in the mix, but if he isn't....
 
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Apparently this government does know what it's doing.

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Far left turkeys wont like this
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PINKIE said:
All we want to do is wave our flag and mow people down

Country's gone
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So tell me bro how many mow down commited by non muslim have we had here ? I can only think of the Liverpool parade guy


And how many times have we seen this by muslims
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But yeh far right thuggery is the problem here <laugh> <doh>
 
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