Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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Are we talking about the same Pinkie?

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EDIT: Truth be told it has got better since HIAG's passing. Prior to that the two of them were like rabbits in heat.

That was years ago

Probs time to welcome him back to the Spurs board, as it looks a bit fragile to keep him banned for so long over something that’s no longer an issue.
 
Compare this hand over of power from Rishi to Keir and then what happened in the US with Trump to Biden.

Night and day.

Absolutely. I personally cannot stand Jacob Rees-Mogg but he was on TV last night after the exit poll saying that at least if that's correct (it was) then Starmer will have a mandate whereas many of the Tory PM's in recent years have been brought in by the party rather than the public. I think it's the first time I've heard him speak and thought I actually agreed with him.

Whatever someones politics it's essential they are allowed to express it and I'm pretty certain that, as a country, there are still a majority of voters who would admit that the party they voted for have some policies they disagree with and the party they didn't vote for have some policies they agree with. One of the most depressing things I find is when people just agree/disagree because of the person saying it, we need to be able to hold anyone and everyone to account. I think we're much better at that than the USA, which is simply too partizan to have sensible debate on core issues.
 
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I seen a crazy stat like out of our population of 65 million or whatever it is, if the Tories had gained another 300k seats, they could have won the election. Fine margins which show how easily it can flip back and forwards.

I expect Reform to continue building rapidly now Farage has actually been elected as an MP. Four million votes shouldn’t be disregarded. They’re a genuine threat, now. It’s up to Labour to do well and keep them at bay.

Whilst I don't agree with most of what Farage stands for, his actual policies aren't my main issue with him to be honest (he's entitled to them).

It's that as far as I can tell he sells himself too much rather than trying to actually change things, he was called out on this by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall a decade ago over the fisheries (as for years Farage complained about the policy on fishing quotas but refused to actually turn up to the European Parliament to vote against it or try to actually implement change. Instead he went on tours of the UK talking about how bad it was. HFW then wrote letters to the European Parliament, was invited to meetings and managed to effect change as a member of the public.).

If anything I'm dubious as to whether things actually changing helps or hinders him really and overall he reminds of a yappy dog on a lead - if someone took the lead off I think he'd panic, the worst thing for reform is probably to get more power as then people would expect them to actually do something whilst currently they're in the sweet spot of having a podium but no actual expectation which will perfectly fit their "all fart and no ****" party.
 
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Parody Keir Starmer

@Parody_PM

“I’m your new Prime Minister” “**** me, not another one”

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She's right on and reflects the public sentiment.

But our memories are short indeed if we forget that when this country was last under Labour leadership, we entered an impossibly complex war launched on false pretenses with zero ideas for a sustainable end game or contingency plan, wasting billions in public funds and thousands of our soldiers' lives in the process and destabilising an entire region.

The corruption and deceit under Blair was unfathomable.

I'd rather a couple of nobody junior ministers placed a tenner on an election date than that.

And I voted Labour.
 
Hes taking it well<laugh>
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The staggering arrogance of someone whose main banking experience came from working at Lehmann brothers for the two years before they plummeted into bankruptcy saying to two former chancellors of the exchequer that they "never really understood monetary economics".

Ed Balls who is still a senior fellow at Harvards school of economics and also lectures on it at Oxford University. Knows nothing him. Proper thicko.
 
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Whilst I don't agree with most of what Farage stands for, his actual policies aren't my main issue with him to be honest (he's entitled to them).

It's that as far as I can tell he sells himself too much rather than trying to actually change things, he was called out on this by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall a decade ago over the fisheries (as for years Farage complained about the policy on fishing quotas but refused to actually turn up to the European Parliament to vote against it or try to actually implement change. Instead he went on tours of the UK talking about how bad it was. HFW then wrote letters to the European Parliament, was invited to meetings and managed to effect change as a member of the public.).

If anything I'm dubious as to whether things actually changing helps or hinders him really and overall he reminds of a yappy dog on a lead - if someone took the lead off I think he'd panic, the worst thing for reform is probably to get more power as then people would expect them to actually do something whilst currently they're in the sweet spot of having a podium but no actual expectation which will perfectly fit their "all fart and no ****" party.

This

Farage is a showman. He's a gobshite with no substance.