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hovetiger said:
I fear his idea of communication is 'I am in charge, therefore I talk and you listen, I command and you do'
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He who pays the piper and all that. If the fans can match their investment they can have an equal say. That's their outlook.

Which I can fully understand in other businesses but football clubs are different. Normal business practice does not apply to football clubs
otherwise 80% of them would be wound up as basket cases. Fans are not customers. Fans hold a share but it's not a financial share it's a moral, historic share.

They've been in charge for over years now and they still haven't grasped it.
 
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Chilton's Hundreds said:
He who pays the piper and all that. If the fans can match their investment they can have an equal say. That's their outlook.

Which I can fully understand in other businesses but football clubs are different. Normal business practice does not apply to football clubs
otherwise 80% of them would be wound up as basket cases. Fans are not customers. Fans hold a share but it's not a financial share it's a moral, historic share.

They've been in charge for over years now and they still haven't grasped it.
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Pair of ****s. Does that observation count me out of being part of any liaison group?
 
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I think this sighting of an olive branch is a load of old bollocks - nothing the boy has said or done so far would indicate he would recognise an olive branch if it was growing out of his arse. This is just Rehab playing the victim card to a tame journo, why didn't he speak to Olly Holt if he had something to say, he could have taken him to task over his article at the same time? He's had every opportunity to open a dialogue with HCST, they offered the branch and it was flatly ignored. The boy is stuck between a rock and a hard place and he hasn't got a clue how to extricate himself.
 
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Ehab has had long enough to apologise, why has he chosen now to do it? Is it because he has pretty much no chance of selling the club this season due to his mismanagement in the summer and rejecting offers for the club? Is it because of the spotlight being put on his inadequate management by the boycott?

I imagine it is a combination of those factors. He has clearly being forced into doing this. Is this an olive branch? Not a chance, he has just being forced into doing something. He hasn't corrected any of his mistakes or apologised he just hasn't made anything worse.

Should we be applauding him for not ****ing up or for not wishing us dead? No not really.

It's too late. Just sell the club for a reasonable price and hopefully the club can eventually start moving forward.
 
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Scratching my head as to why the first question wouldn't be 'so why aren't you coming to the game and looking after your guests?' They then wouldn't need to ask the question he claims they asked.
We are desperate to listen to any news to actually listen to. If there was any softening in his stance, he would start sharing some information from the club around the sale, their intentions, etc. He wouldn't maintain the North Korean no news approach.
Sorry Chazz, no sign of any olive branch for me. just a response to the Holt article. Trying to put the blame on us is laughable. But as suggested by others, let's call his bluff, ask for meetings etc.
 
originallambrettaman said:
Another blatant lie.
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Erm.

In response to my question about some Trust members and Directors wanting the Allams gone...

originallambrettaman said:
Everyone wants rid of the Allams. <doh>
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Suggesting that there is no compromise possible and its a done deal.

Back to sensible discussions..
Party Hull! said:
Hmm, this is the difficulty though, I don't think that most of the people who who want to grasp this opportunity do want the Trust to lead. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem done with them.

Full disclosure, I'm not a member of Trust. Never joined. I was a member of CTWD and would have been happy to carry that on, but I was less interested in a Trust. In general, I think they aim for the right things.

I do think though, that animosity to the Trust has reached such a degree that it's damaging to them, but apart from strong criticism of them I've seen no solid alternative offered. Like you, I'm sure, I getting pretty tired of all of this, and regime change seemed tantalisingly close at one point, and I really want to start going back every week. If people REALLY believe this is an opportunity, then I'm intrigued. As I said, I am more than a little sceptical of that, but I'd love to be wrong.

Since I never joined the Trust then I don't think I could be conflicted, so if anyone wants to explain where they see the opportunity to me (either on here or on PM) then I'm happy to listen. If I then see it too then count me in, I'd like to help. I have leave left to take at work, I have some money in a savings account, I have a car, I have time to offer to the cause.

I'm fed up of it now so maybe time for me to do my bit, but I need some convincing here. I'm here to help. Talk to me.
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I still have hope that Geoff can turn it around. Its quite obvious why I won't join them, I've made that clear in recent weeks, but I still support the idea of the Trust, and hope it can wake up and fix whats broken within, and with the club. They appear to me to have settled into frankly embarrassing sniping at the owners, and waiting for new owners they hope they can ingratiate themselves with (although I suspect that won't turn out as they hope either). As the chairman he carries some authority, and also comes over well when you talk to him, he is a reasonable fella.

Yes, I am also tired of it all too and I'd like a resolution to it all. If that's new owners, great, assuming they reverse the social media naming, and lack of concessions. I'd also just as happily settle for Ehab apologising, and reversing those 2 decisions and trying to build some engagement up with the fans. He's shown some commitment to the club in recent weeks with Silva, the new coaches, and new players. I'd like to think he's as fed up with all this snarky bollocks too, but honestly, there seems little point in trying to engage with people who make nasty racist digs at him and his family, and who just ridicule them. Nobody wins in this at all and I do believe sometimes its better to take the moral high ground, be the bigger man and reign the nastiness back a lot, and see how treating someone with respect can work out. Things have changed recently, why not try to build on that as a starter?

If it doesn't work, then yeah, unleash the hounds and hashtags.
 
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Cambstiger said:
If he was any sort of businessman trying to run a business which employed people he would try, and keep trying, to make us listen. He would be in constant communication to make sure that the business he runs (Hull City AFC) is seen in the best light and everyone understands what is going on. The problem is he has no intention of communicating because he cannot be bothered or he does not know how to. He is an absolute twat and certainly no businessman. His father must be really worried as to what will happen to his business once he has gone.
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Nah, he'll be too busy trying to figure out what to do with 72 virgins!
 
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Having finally read it -
Poor journalism why is the YP & not HDM reporting this ? (are they HDM not subservient enough now?) where are the questions of the Allams? Just suck it all up & accept it, is the journalist an old mate?
Comes across as a PR generated stunt as response to the Oliver Holt article -PR like the ongoing 'radio' silence & recent choreographed public statements - not Ehabs crayoning ...
The Olive 'branch' if it exists reminds me of a 'manager' I once worked with who if he had to apologise to the public said (something like) 'I'm sorry if you were offended and believe your feelings have been hurt' , then after boasting how people fell for it
Like father like son - no discourse - just blind loyalty expected -http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29440451 'During the course of my conversations one employee tells me 'we'd all run through a brick wall for him'. It is a message that crops up time and again. ' - nothing changes ... saviours misunderstood & hard done by ...
 
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originallambrettaman said:
You don't have to forgive and move on with anything, you just have to apply some common sense.

The ground is a third empty, it's costing the club money, re-open the West Upper and try and get those fans back and announce you're looking at concessions for next season. There's plenty of easy fixes, all he has to do is meet with the fans, discuss what's upsetting them most and what will make them return, then go some way to addressing it. It's not ****ing rocket science.

But he won't do it, because he's an arrogant jumped up lying little prick.
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Ehab ain't no Ollie "Olive" Oliphant <laugh>

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Guvnor 66 said:
Having finally read it -
Poor journalism why is the YP & not HDM reporting this ? (are they HDM not subservient enough now?) where are the questions of the Allams? Just suck it all up & accept it, is the journalist an old mate?
Comes across as a PR generated stunt as response to the Oliver Holt article -PR like the ongoing 'radio' silence & recent choreographed public statements - not Ehabs crayoning ...
The Olive 'branch' if it exists reminds me of a 'manager' I once worked with who if he had to apologise to the public said (something like) 'I'm sorry if you were offended and believe your feelings have been hurt' , then after boasting how people fell for it
Like father like son - no discourse - just blind loyalty expected -http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29440451 'During the course of my conversations one employee tells me 'we'd all run through a brick wall for him'. It is a message that crops up time and again. ' - nothing changes ... saviours misunderstood & hard done by ...
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And that 'Run through a brick wall' quote was often used by a certain employee.

So much so that he actually did run through a brick wall - all the way to Leeds Utd.
 
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