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I think some people really need to find some other focus in their lives. Some of the garbage and obsessive posts on here is quite sad. We lose its the end of the world, we win we are going to qualify for europe. Hope we go down and play in a proper league instead of listen to the crap that comes out of some people's mouths.
 
MadridTiger said:
I think some people really need to find some other focus in their lives. Some of the garbage and obsessive posts on here is quite sad. We lose its the end of the world, we win we are going to qualify for europe. Hope we go down and play in a proper league instead of listen to the crap that comes out of some people's mouths.
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Very true matey
Also the formation experts are at it again
 
tigerpants54 said:
Agree completely, I think the problem is the 3-5-2, restricts our wingers to how far forward they can come. It works against teams like everton and the big teams, because they attack and we counter attack down the wings. but when we go to play the little teams they seem to defend and try and catch a lucky break and more often than not, this works because our wingers are out of position, I also don't like Elmo in the 3-5-2 but thats another story, we need to play a 4-4-2 and get our wingers in on the action and really go for their defence.

Everybody knows that West Brom have nothing up front, so why do we play 3 centre backs when we could play one of these 3 as an attacker. where is the logic in defending heavy against a team that struggle to score? if we had that extra body up top today we could of grabbed something but instead we had that extra body in defence (and lost anyway) with no out and out wingers!
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Your OP was the first time in ages you've said something that wasn't complete bollocks. This one is back to form.
 
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Sorry fellers but it is not the formation but the simple fact that our players aren't performing at this level and in my humble opinion are not capable of performing at this level. With Snodgrass, Dawson, Robertson and Diame injured we are without (arguably) our four best players. Chester, Livermore, Huddlestone, Jelly and Elmo are all 'off the boil'! Brady, like Aluko was great in the Championship but both are a noodle short of a stir-fry for Premier League Football. Ince and Maguire are showing great promise but lack experience at this level. Hernandez, despite the hype and the price tag, would be lucky to score in a Pearson Park kick about (the Hull City striker curse strikes again). The least said about Sagbo the better. McShane, Bruce and Rosenior all put in a commendable shift but, again, are short of the quality required.
We laid out some good money for some good players but injuries have decimated the side since day one preventing us from fielding our best team over and over again coupled with the fact that some have proven to be not as good as we expected.
We are in deep poo-poo fellers and it is no good denying it.
We now have nobody to score goals so where are we.
There has to be some drastic action take place this week and I still have a 'gut-feeling' that something is wrong internally with the Club.
Meanwhile, whilst I cheer my team on from miles away, I feel that this season has deteriorated to the extent that . . .

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. . . we are doomed!
 
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MadridTiger said:
I think some people really need to find some other focus in their lives. Some of the garbage and obsessive posts on here is quite sad. We lose its the end of the world, we win we are going to qualify for europe. Hope we go down and play in a proper league instead of listen to the crap that comes out of some people's mouths.
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Its the nature of the sporting fan.
 
.. and then he ****s up with the baggies.
it was a chance to establish some daylight between us and the bottom lot.
 
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.. and then he ****s up with the baggies.
it was a chance to establish some daylight between us and the bottom lot.
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As much as a manger is responsible for his teams performance and we should hold him responsible he doesnt in fact take the field. I fail to see how he is the sole person to blame for us not getting a win today. Perhaps we could say that the team ****ed up against the baggies rather than simply blaming Bruce.
 
tigerpants54 said:
Agree completely, I think the problem is the 3-5-2, restricts our wingers to how far forward they can come. It works against teams like everton and the big teams, because they attack and we counter attack down the wings. but when we go to play the little teams they seem to defend and try and catch a lucky break and more often than not, this works because our wingers are out of position, I also don't like Elmo in the 3-5-2 but thats another story, we need to play a 4-4-2 and get our wingers in on the action and really go for their defence.

Everybody knows that West Brom have nothing up front, so why do we play 3 centre backs when we could play one of these 3 as an attacker. where is the logic in defending heavy against a team that struggle to score? if we had that extra body up top today we could of grabbed something but instead we had that extra body in defence (and lost anyway) with no out and out wingers!
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Most of the match we where playing 4-4-2, actually went to 3-5-2 after we lost the two strikers
tigerpants54 said:
Agree completely, I think the problem is the 3-5-2, restricts our wingers to how far forward they can come. It works against teams like everton and the big teams, because they attack and we counter attack down the wings. but when we go to play the little teams they seem to defend and try and catch a lucky break and more often than not, this works because our wingers are out of position, I also don't like Elmo in the 3-5-2 but thats another story, we need to play a 4-4-2 and get our wingers in on the action and really go for their defence.

Everybody knows that West Brom have nothing up front, so why do we play 3 centre backs when we could play one of these 3 as an attacker. where is the logic in defending heavy against a team that struggle to score? if we had that extra body up top today we could of grabbed something but instead we had that extra body in defence (and lost anyway) with no out and out wingers!
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I thought it looked like we were playing 3-5-2, as Chester was always central and why the hell would Elmo be back to make the error if he wasn't playing RWB. Whenever we use the 3-5-2 against the smaller teams, we are going to lose! FACT!
 
We started playing 4-4-2 and we finished playing 4-4-2, after the strikers went off, Elmo was generally our furthest player forward.

Though in reality, once the strikers went off, we were playing 4-6-0.
 
don,t really understand how you can say that we equal to a lot of the teams in the bottom 3. We have so far this season lost to Burnley, Leicester, West Brom, Aston Villa who currently make up 4 of the bottom 8.
We have performed poorly or very poorly in 80% of the games that we have played this season. Yes injuries have hampered us but we should still be able to put out a team every week that can put in a decent performance and at least create some chances.
I think that the Steve Bruce book of excuses must be starting to run dry now, he should be able to get better performances out of the players that we have even with the injury situation, because at the end of the day he picks the team and the system and players are following his instructions.
It's ok people burying their heads in the sand hoping that our fortunes turn around but there is no evidence of this happening.
Don't let one decent performance against a poor Everton team mask the problems that we currently have.

We have competed against QPR, stoke, west ham, Newcastle, Man city, Palace Arsenal, Liverpool , Spurs, Everton {H and A) Sunderland, Leicester and West Brom (h and A). Admittedly we have not taken enough points and the period between playing Burnley up to Swansea was awful but the point i am making is when you spend around 25 million pounds on 3 strikers , Snodgrass, Hernandez and Jelevic and for one reason or another they have not played it makes a MASSIVE difference, we have coped OK with injuries to defenders and midfield although losing Diame was a big loss but losing the forwards has made a enormous difference properly half a dozen points at least. SB does pick the team , system tactics ect but if you have not got the forwards available your not going to score the goals. One thing i will agree with you is that if forwards don't come back quickly or he fails to bring decent forwards in then their is no chance of our fortunes turning around
 
I dont think we have played poorly for 80% of the time at all! I think Luck & indvidual errors has gone against us far too much this season! there are many games this season that we have drawn that I felt we should of won and some games we've lost where I think we could of got a point.....some individuals have performed poorly this season, McGregor, Huddlestone,Davies,Aluko and Sagbo are the only ones I can think of right now, maybe Livermore but I think Huddlestone affects his game!
 
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tigerpants54 said:
Apart from the fact it was a poor game and we didn't create anything, I thought we could of knabbed it as much as them. It could of gone either way, which is saying something when half our squad is in the treatment room. Hopefully we can bring in some players this week, think we need a creative midfielder (salah) and 2 strikers! .......I still think there are worse teams in the league and even though West Brom beat us, I still think they looked poor in most areas of the pitch and I thought we looked better in possession. West Brom will need alot of luck like they had today, to stay up! we just need a few additions!
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Spot on ^^^^^^ this. Well said. Many of the hissy fitters and neg heads were at it again leaving Wba.
FFS, but for the McGregor howler Hull City would have gained a point and been in 14th place with Wba
in 18th.

WBA are a poor team and the fact that we have now let both games @ the Hawthorns go south is down to us and not Wba.

Leicester - Wba and Dqpr are the 3 worst teams we have faced this season.

As you say we just need some fit bodies back.
 
TigerRoo said:
Sorry fellers but it is not the formation but the simple fact that our players aren't performing at this level and in my humble opinion are not capable of performing at this level. With Snodgrass, Dawson, Robertson and Diame injured we are without (arguably) our four best players. Chester, Livermore, Huddlestone, Jelly and Elmo are all 'off the boil'! Brady, like Aluko was great in the Championship but both are a noodle short of a stir-fry for Premier League Football. Ince and Maguire are showing great promise but lack experience at this level. Hernandez, despite the hype and the price tag, would be lucky to score in a Pearson Park kick about (the Hull City striker curse strikes again). The least said about Sagbo the better. McShane, Bruce and Rosenior all put in a commendable shift but, again, are short of the quality required.
We laid out some good money for some good players but injuries have decimated the side since day one preventing us from fielding our best team over and over again coupled with the fact that some have proven to be not as good as we expected.
We are in deep poo-poo fellers and it is no good denying it.
We now have nobody to score goals so where are we.
There has to be some drastic action take place this week and I still have a 'gut-feeling' that something is wrong internally with the Club.
Meanwhile, whilst I cheer my team on from miles away, I feel that this season has deteriorated to the extent that . . .

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So you've written him off already? Just half a season, 14 appearances and 3 goals and you think he isn't good enough. I know you consider yourself a striker connisseur, but that's a ridiculous statement. As is the claim that Snodgrass is one of our best players after two European performances and a few minutes of PL action.
 
Sterling Archer said:
So you've written him off already? Just half a season, 14 appearances and 3 goals and you think he isn't good enough. I know you consider yourself a striker connisseur, but that's a ridiculous statement. As is the claim that Snodgrass is one of our best players after two European performances and a few minutes of PL action.
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Yes, sorry Sterling, but if this bloke is worth 10 million quid Rooney must be worth a Billion.
He's scored 2 from 14 by the way, the other was a penalty.
There's still chance for him to 'come good' but he'd better pull his finger out quick.
 
I dont see how you can blame our strikers when at times our midfielders are stuggling to create chances from crosses,free kicks or through balls. non of these have been evident and I think that starts on the training pitch! Jelavic and Hernandez, are quality strikers. The fact they are both injured shows how much effort they have had to put in just to get a touch of the ball! ...it doesn't help the fact that all our creative midfielders are injured!
 
TigerRoo said:
Yes, sorry Sterling, but if this bloke is worth 10 million quid Rooney must be worth a Billion.
He's scored 2 from 14 by the way, the other was a penalty.
There's still chance for him to 'come good' but he'd better pull his finger out quick.
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Penalties are still goals and apparently, he's never missed one, which is handy.

There's no doubt that he needs someone alongside him, he looked completely lost trying to play as a lone striker and I don't think he'll ever live up to his £10m price tag.

That said, alongside Jelavic, he actually looks fairly dangerous, so he's far from being a disaster. If we can get the pair of them back on the pitch together, then we'll see them scoring, it's what we do between now and then that's the problem.
 
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