Dodgy keeper

[tigercity]

Which of our keepers have been best on distribution over the years? Myhill perhaps..

 

[Fez]

I love the fact that I'm judgemental though, despite you making a judgement about me in the same paragraph and on a thread where you've tried to nail moderators to the wall.

Your observation and minor criticism has been going on for a few pages now and I did jump in yes, when you post infrequently you kind of have to.

Jak kept us in the game, yet the immediate reaction was criticism and ridicule on his own threads, specially created for the purpose. It's just wrong, on every level. Especially when some of the main contributors have made frequent rants about getting behind the team.

I didn't go out of my way to have a pop at you; you did with me.

Tried to nail moderators to the wall really! I think PLT does more than his fair share of argumentative posting and it was only him I took it up with, so moderator, singular, is more accurate. OLM made his own considered decision to post at me.

After my original posts I have simply responded to others, as I am now - as you say, it's a forum.

 

[originallambrettaman]

There was only one thread posted about Jakupovic after Saturday's game and it was about his showboating, rather than his ability as a keeper.

As a consequence, I thought that merging into the 'Dodgy keeper' thread was inappropriate.

I still think so.

 

[askewshair]

Which of our keepers have been best on distribution over the years? Myhill perhaps..

Only very brief, but Mannone certainly knew how to turn defence into attack, I'm recalling his throwing rather than kicking.

 

[askewshair]

There was only one thread posted about Jakupovic after Saturday's game and it was about his showboating, rather than his ability as a keeper.

As a consequence, I thought that merging into the 'Dodgy keeper' thread was inappropriate.

I still think so.

I have to admit he is certainly a source of interest and almost warrants his own sticky. I have never seen such an erratic goalie. Fantastic shot stopping one minute and yet (whether some choose to play it down or not...wtf is a half mistake!!) error ridden. Looks like he will have a massive say on whether or not we STAY up.

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

I have to admit he is certainly a source of interest and almost warrants his own sticky. I have never seen such an erratic goalie. Fantastic shot stopping one minute and yet (whether some choose to play it down or not...wtf is a half mistake!!) error ridden. Looks like he will have a massive say on whether or not we go up.

I think we've not enough games now for a Champions or even Europa League ...

 

[spesupersydera]

I have to admit he is certainly a source of interest and almost warrants his own sticky. I have never seen such an erratic goalie. Fantastic shot stopping one minute and yet (whether some choose to play it down or not...wtf is a half mistake!!) error ridden. Looks like he will have a massive say on whether or not we STAY up.

^^This - what you see with him is exactly what you get, I think he's the most eccentric keeper I've seen since Budgie Burridge - I just hope between now and the end of the season he has more 'worldies' in him than 'flaps' at balls in the box.

 

[Fez]

There was only one thread posted about Jakupovic after Saturday's game and it was about his showboating, rather than his ability as a keeper.

As a consequence, I thought that merging into the 'Dodgy keeper' thread was inappropriate.

I still think so.

There was one already in existence and being used and this one posted anew.

Are you sure there is no reference to his ability as a keeper? Do you not think this was intended to incite more of the same? This was the point I made and you choose to ignore.

Stop acting like a ****ing clown. Playing to the crowd, back slapping, shaking hands with the the opposition players. you're acting like a twat. That GK in the second half after all the twatting about and then to hit a scudder at waist height!! FFS Same in the first half too.
Piss poor couple of punches too.
A ****ing appalling display.
Sort yourself out.

 

[originallambrettaman]

There was one already in existence and being used and this one posted anew.

Are you sure there is no reference to his ability as a keeper? Do you not think this was intended to incite more of the same? This was the point I made and you choose to ignore.

I absolutely do not think it was posted to incite more of the same.

You've made your point, I disagree with it for the reasons I've given, but it's been done to death now, so let's move on.

 

[Fez]

^^This - what you see with him is exactly what you get, I think he's the most eccentric keeper I've seen since Budgie Burridge - I just hope between now and the end of the season he has more 'worldies' in him than 'flaps' at balls in the box.

I agree he is eccentric, he is a character. I don't believe error ridden, as he has been described, is either fair or reasonable, as it would lead folk to think he is a calamity, which he most definitely is not; or do his figures and pundit praise lie? What about the good things, his saves, the things that really have impact on the results, why not focus on those positives, if only a little bit?

It's this biased negativity that boils my piss; especially, as it was, so very soon after a very important result.

 

[Fez]

I absolutely do not think it was posted to incite more of the same.

You've made your point, I disagree with it for the reasons I've given, but it's been done to death now, so let's move on.

I did, you didnt.

 

[spesupersydera]

I agree he is eccentric, he is a character. I don't believe error ridden, as he has been described, is either fair or reasonable, as it would lead folk to think he is a calamity, which he most definitely is not; or do his figures and pundit praise lie? What about the good things, his saves, the things that really have impact on the results, why not focus on those positives, if only a little bit?

It's this biased negativity that boils my piss; especially, as it was, so very soon after a very important result.

Where exactly is the ''biased negativity'' in my post that's making your piss boil?

 

[Fez]

Where exactly is the ''biased negativity'' in my post that's making your piss boil?

I never said it was yours, it wasn't.

 

[spesupersydera]

I never said it was yours, it wasn't.

Thanks Fez, I didn't think it was - but since you replied to my post I thought I'd best ask.

 

[askewshair]

I agree he is eccentric, he is a character. I don't believe error ridden, as he has been described, is either fair or reasonable, as it would lead folk to think he is a calamity, which he most definitely is not; or do his figures and pundit praise lie? What about the good things, his saves, the things that really have impact on the results, why not focus on those positives, if only a little bit?

It's this biased negativity that boils my piss; especially, as it was, so very soon after a very important result.

Fez your more defensive than Steve Bruce FFS. I have acknowledged that he has been fantastic for a lot of the season. Recently he has become a mixed bag, and has been very lucky in the last few games that basic mistakes haven't cost us even more. Ridiculous that some are totally blind to this, we all love a character and somebody a bit different, not sure I want one in the middle of our goal! I am entitled to an opinion. But don't worry, I don't pick the team, Hi ho doesn't read this forum and I'm pretty sure the Jak doesn't either.

 

[Fez]

Fez your more defensive than Steve Bruce FFS. I have acknowledged that he has been fantastic for a lot of the season. Recently he has become a mixed bag, and has been very lucky in the last few games that basic mistakes haven't cost us even more. Ridiculous that some are totally blind to this, we all love a character and somebody a bit different, not sure I want one in the middle of our goal! I am entitled to an opinion. But don't worry, I don't pick the team, Hi ho doesn't read this forum and I'm pretty sure the Jak doesn't either.

That's a terrible insult; no one's as defensive as Steve Bruce.

Like I pointed out, very simply, the points you make are frequent and exaggerated. In my opinion, and that of quite a few others, on these boards and elsewhere, your criticisms take small things and make them something they are not. You also lack the balance of remarking on the good things he does.

You are entitled to an opinion and you post it everywhere (noticed the jibe on another, totally disassociated thread - I ignored it, but you have addressed me directly here), just as I am entitled to respond without being told to move on.

I think you would be surprised how social media comments get back to players.

 

[tigercity]

wor bickering has turned it into one of those horrible horrible threads..

 

[Kempton]

wor bickering has turned it into one of those horrible horrible threads..

Wor dust worselves doon n goo agen

 

[askewshair]

. In my opinion, and that of quite a few others, on these boards and elsewhere, your criticisms take small things and make them something they are not.
Where is elsewhere?
You also lack the balance of remarking on the good things he does.
Read my posts. Unlike 'pro Jaks'.
You are entitled to an opinion and you post it everywhere (noticed the jibe on another, totally disassociated thread - I ignored it, but you have addressed me directly here), just as I am entitled to respond without being told to move on.
You seem to be taking it personally, I am glad you didn't respond, cos you'd have looked a bit silly. It was a bit of harmless banter. I certainly haven't told you to move on, I'm enjoying the baiting
I think you would be surprised how social media comments get back to players.
No wonder Marshall lost bloody confidence then, you've really put us in the ****.

I will say, my initial post was to get the views of something I was seeing. I spend 45 minutes every home game with him directly in front of me, his performances were getting more and more untidy. It's not the usual thread I start or even get involved in, I was going to post prior to the Leicester game, but thought it would get into a Marshall/ Jak thread. I had to after that performance and couldn't believe the desperate reactions, almost as if I'd committed blasphemy. I've carried on with a bit of harmless banter, but see some are getting upset by this. I take no pleasure from that, so aren't gonna comment on this thread until after the next game, I hope it's to comment on a better all round performance from Jak.

 

[Benjo]

I will say, my initial post was to get the views of something I was seeing. I spend 45 minutes every home game with him directly in front of me, his performances were getting more and more untidy. It's not the usual thread I start or even get involved in, I was going to post prior to the Leicester game, but thought it would get into a Marshall/ Jak thread. I had to after that performance and couldn't believe the desperate reactions, almost as if I'd committed blasphemy. I've carried on with a bit of harmless banter, but see some are getting upset by this. I take no pleasure from that, so aren't gonna comment on this thread until after the next game, I hope it's to comment on a better all round performance from Jak.

I have to say I'm surprised at the reaction you've had on here to be honest.

I don't think anyone at the club should be exempt from criticism if somebody has a valid point to make on here.

I agree that Jakupovic is becoming untidy (at the moment). I also agree Bruce is too defensive. I personally think Grosicki has no end product (at the moment) and think Elmohamady is a waste of a shirt for numerous reasons.

I don't agree that Hernandez has attitude problems and I don't agree that Marshall was at fault for a lot of the goals we conceded. Unlike Charon-the-ferryman I think Alex Bruce was an excellent servant for the club and was a very underrated player.

I also think Markovic has the ability to be a real game changer for us if he can just catch a bit of a break. I think he's incredibly skillful with the ball at his feet and could turn into a real gem if he finds a bit of clinical form quickly.

People have different perspectives based on what they've seen and how they've interpreted what they've seen. I doubt more than a handful of people would agree with every one of my opinions above. This should be a place that allows for such discussion though, positive or negative, regardless of how soon after a victory it is posted.