Do we even need Ozil ?

ToledoTrumpton said:
Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if he has a behind the scenes agreement with Wenger and the club. I think I see a difference between Ozil's attitude and Sanchez's, but it may just be my hopeful imagination.
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I can also see this as a possible scenario to secure a huge pay-rise should he sign on. How desperate are we to grab his signature and pay for that privilege.

Out of the two, Sanchez has a wider pool of teams interested in him than Ozil. That's why Sanchez has that laissez faire attitude.
 
Personally i would keep Ozil.

Sell...

Sanchez (this Jan) - I just dont think he WANTS to be here.
Debuchy
Coquelin
Elneny
Wellbeck
Akpom

Sign:

If Sanchez leaves: Thomas Lemar - A creative player who can speed the game up and move with the ball. Wont get the goals Sanchez gets us but keeps the ball better.
Goretska - Tall, strong, creative and covers a lot of ground.
Koulibali/Van Dijk - A PROPER centreback.


--------------------------Cech---------------------------
--------Koscielny----Mustafi----VanDijk-----------
Bellerin----Goretska-----Xhaka-------Kolasinac
----------Ozil-------Lacazette-----Lemar-----------
 
afcftw said:
He has more assists than any player in the league since he joined us,
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Ozil is a very good player but when you spin facts to make them more impressive than they really are then you lost credibility:

Assists in the same amount of time (since KDB joined City):
Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) 35
Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 32
Christian Eriksen (Tottenham) 30
Luis Suarez (Barcelona) 30
Neymar (Barcelona and PSG) 29
Lionel Messi (Barcelona) 29
Angel di Maria (PSG) 27
 
cini65 said:
Ozil is a very good player but when you spin facts to make them more impressive than they really are then you lost credibility:

Assists in the same amount of time (since KDB joined City):
Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) 35
Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 32
Christian Eriksen (Tottenham) 30
Luis Suarez (Barcelona) 30
Neymar (Barcelona and PSG) 29
Lionel Messi (Barcelona) 29
Angel di Maria (PSG) 27
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There is only three premier league players in that list. Spinning?
 
cini65 said:
Ozil is a very good player but when you spin facts to make them more impressive than they really are then you lost credibility:

Assists in the same amount of time (since KDB joined City):
Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) 35
Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 32
Christian Eriksen (Tottenham) 30
Luis Suarez (Barcelona) 30
Neymar (Barcelona and PSG) 29
Lionel Messi (Barcelona) 29
Angel di Maria (PSG) 27
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I didn't spin anything, I just stated a fact. The stat i put was talking about Ozil (from an Ozil article) and so used his time in the league. The stat you've gone with is since De Bruyne joined City (an article focusing on De Bruyne) and is for the European leagues instead of the prem. they are just two different sets of parameters for assists stats. And either way make Ozil look really good.

the idea that somehow loses me credibility is nonsense. Bore off.
 
cini65 said:
Yes spinning. AFCTW's statement distorts facts to make out Ozil is the best creator in the league. He isn't. But still damn good at what he does.
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Surely that depends on the time period being looked at? Getting your knickers in a twist for no reason. Both stats are correct.
 
afcftw said:
Surely that depends on the time period being looked at? Getting your knickers in a twist for no reason. Both stats are correct.
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Your stat is correct... but unfair given the insinuation that Ozil gets the most assists in the league when he doesn't. You've had to give Ozil a two year head start to get him up above De Bruyne. Therefore the credibility you lose makes the attempt to big up Ozil futile. He's good enough to not need facts bent and spun about him.

afcftw said:
Surely that depends on the time period being looked at? Getting your knickers in a twist for no reason. Both stats are correct.
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Yes, the time period when both were playing in the league at the same time. You can't say that Ozil is a better assister just because he has more assists when he's had a head start of two seasons. I could get more prem assists than De Bruyne if I'd played football for 100 years more than him*. Again, Ozil's too good to need spin.





OK... maybe I couldn't because I'm no good.
 
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I think arsenal does need ozil and it looks like if wenger does not make it cushty for him then other teams will do the job for him. I reckon man utd is already tempting for him as mourinho is there but who knows, only time will tell. See how these 'talks' go I guess? Without a doubt he is a great player for arsenal though.
 
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