Crime - part deux

Varg Vikernes of Norwegian black metal band Burzum was sentenced 21 years there.
Burned down churches, murdered one of his own bandmates, stole stuff and horded explosives.
Escaped after 9 years and stole a family's car at gunpoint, for which he got another 13 months. Months...

He was released in 2009 and now lives in France with his family, where he got put on probation for inciting racial hatred.
He's still a raving lunatic and was one of the people that Anders Breivik sent his manifesto to.
He continued to release albums during his imprisonment and after he got out.

 

Fully agree with you, there are some crime where the death sentence, or, spending the rest of your days in a 1m x 1m concrete shell with no sunlight, bread and water to eat and a bucket for all your personal needs is appropriate, this crime was one of them

 

I'm all for a Chinese style democracy mate, get them detention centres built. I did tell vote @Sucky but he won't put it in his manifesto.

 

Personally, I am against death sentences.

I also think that a justice system has to look at rehabilitation as well as a punishment.

However, some crimes are beyond a person being rehabilitated.

In this country, the Yorkshire Ripper is a good example (there a many others too).

I get there may be mistakes made in judging these cases but ****ing hell...77 murders should simply mean you ain't ever getting out.

There ain't no rehabilitation possible for a **** that does that.

To be clear...I ain't slagging anyone's views off (these discussions tend to get into slagging matches and I've been counted off enough today )

 

Trouble is the prison system should be rehabilitation, but it's not, otherwise people wouldn't get radicalised inside. I can only assume that right wing nut is afforded some sort of protection inside, otherwise I'd have to ask why has no one sorted him by now. I can't imagine any right wing nutter survives well inside these days, so it just baffles me, unless the Norway prisons are full of right wing nutters. None of it makes any sense to me.

 

So Prince Andy settlement? How much we reckon.?

Ill go 4m

 

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A Norwegian prison cell. I think I've stayed in worse hotels!

 

Hopefully no price and he gets his balls cut off, btw there is a programme on ITV now about Epstein etc.

 

Holiday camp, all found and probably a TV as well

 

That's a tv on the wall facing the bed, I think. Not the light. Other end.

 

They clearly had no violence in them cells, otherwise everything would have to be bolted down. So there is no way, someone who would harm themselves or harming others such as guards, would be in them cells.

 

That's better than most of the rooms I rented from the age of 17-22 yrs old

 

Better than Travel Lodge etc and probably a better breakfast

 

I think it all depends on what you want prison to do. Is the priority to keep society safer or is it to punish criminals. You'd think it could do both but all statistics point towards it being a choice between the two. Our natural instinct is to want to see them punished, but Norway, which focuses almost entirely on rehabilitation, has one of the lowest reoffending rates in the world - less than half what ours is.

In Norway a parole hearing is automatic after a certain length of time, but unless the person is shown to be no danger there is little chance of release. It just looks weird to us coming from a very different system.

 

Yeah Scandinavian prisons are luxury. That Brevik guy is in solitary which is why nobody can **** him up. After a few months of his sentence he complained because he didn’t have access to a TV and PlayStation or something, he won and now has one in his room

 

There’s a series on Netflix called inside prisons or something, hosted by Raphael Rowe. Is quite a good watch if you like that thing. He spends a week in prisons all round the world. The German ones and Scandinavian ones are crazy lenient

 

It did make me wonder.

 

Remembering this series now Iceland was the best. Everyone knows each other there as it is so small so the guards are too scared to enforce any of the rules in case the prisoners tell their mates outside who will know the guards and beat them up

 

Saw Giggs trial has been kicked back another seven months

Where the **** is Guilty Sigurdsson?

 

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