Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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Some people have always worn masks for driving. Anyway, why should anyone care? I've heard some people even wear special shoes and gloves for driving.

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IMHO wearing a mask on your own in a car is illogical.

However, I may have a different perspective as I've never worn a mask here at all. Not in the office (which hasn't closed), the shops, public transport or pubs.

I did wear one while on holiday in Spain this summer as those were the rules there.

I'm not anti-mask but I think the benefit is marginal for some one who's vaccinated and otherwise healthy.
 
It's not "only the flu", we've done this one to death. The flu doesn't mutate like this virus does, it's not as contagious either. The flu also doesn't kill over 100,000 people in a year, in fact, it's usually about 10% of that.

*Love* the idea of some having a certain amount of people dying as a measure of whether they should take precautions or not. "Oh only 100 people died today, it's fine". We've now reached the point where actual people dying just becomes a statistic, basically dehumanised in order to defend people's decisions. Alright isn't it, until you're the one that starts losing loved ones and then those numbers actually start to mean something again.

We've opened up, we're not going to go back to lockdown again. I can deal with that, but I haven't stopped wearing a mask because I'm in a classroom with 28 kids and another adult over 50 for seven hours a day, **** knows how many times I'm exposed to it and I won't risk spreading it to others. I've had four kids off with Covid this week alone, one was blue lighted to hospital because her heart rate spiked. She's seven and was a perfectly healthy child, hopefully this won't impact her long term but I doubt she'll be so lucky, nobody else I've met who's had it has fully recovered, even those who had it a year ago. So you go ahead and treat it like flu or a snotty nose or whatever you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your choices. You do that.

This virus isn't going to be stopped by a vaccine alone, it's going to require everybody taking precautions to limit interaction where possible, just like other countries have. I'd wager a bag of cash with a dollar sign on it that the UK ends up having the highest Covid figures in Europe this winter, we just don't like being told to change our habits. Electric cars? **** off. Eat less meat? Shares in Toby Carvery shoot up. We just can't do what other nations can. We're isolationist as a nation, but even at a societal level, we're incredibly self centred and we just aren't willing to take that step to pull together. Until we do, this virus isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully everybody pulls through this Christmas with no tragedy or illness, I really hope they do after the year we've had.
 
Some people have always worn masks for driving. Anyway, why should anyone care? I've heard some people even wear special shoes and gloves for driving.

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The string back just gives you that extra bit of purchase.
 
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You suggested I was driving and should stick to the task in hand of driving, not watching other dr
It's not "only the flu", we've done this one to death. The flu doesn't mutate like this virus does, it's not as contagious either. The flu also doesn't kill over 100,000 people in a year, in fact, it's usually about 10% of that.

*Love* the idea of some having a certain amount of people dying as a measure of whether they should take precautions or not. "Oh only 100 people died today, it's fine". We've now reached the point where actual people dying just becomes a statistic, basically dehumanised in order to defend people's decisions. Alright isn't it, until you're the one that starts losing loved ones and then those numbers actually start to mean something again.

We've opened up, we're not going to go back to lockdown again. I can deal with that, but I haven't stopped wearing a mask because I'm in a classroom with 28 kids and another adult over 50 for seven hours a day, **** knows how many times I'm exposed to it and I won't risk spreading it to others. I've had four kids off with Covid this week alone, one was blue lighted to hospital because her heart rate spiked. She's seven and was a perfectly healthy child, hopefully this won't impact her long term but I doubt she'll be so lucky, nobody else I've met who's had it has fully recovered, even those who had it a year ago. So you go ahead and treat it like flu or a snotty nose or whatever you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your choices. You do that.

This virus isn't going to be stopped by a vaccine alone, it's going to require everybody taking precautions to limit interaction where possible, just like other countries have. I'd wager a bag of cash with a dollar sign on it that the UK ends up having the highest Covid figures in Europe this winter, we just don't like being told to change our habits. Electric cars? **** off. Eat less meat? Shares in Toby Carvery shoot up. We just can't do what other nations can. We're isolationist as a nation, but even at a societal level, we're incredibly self centred and we just aren't willing to take that step to pull together. Until we do, this virus isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully everybody pulls through this Christmas with no tragedy or illness, I really hope they do after the year we've had.

"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"

Joseph Stalin
 
When are they going to start counting those who died because they didn't get to see their GP or they didn't get diagnosed in time, or their hospital appointment was cancelled?

They can't it's an impossible task, but there will be loads.
 
It's not "only the flu", we've done this one to death. The flu doesn't mutate like this virus does, it's not as contagious either. The flu also doesn't kill over 100,000 people in a year, in fact, it's usually about 10% of that.

*Love* the idea of some having a certain amount of people dying as a measure of whether they should take precautions or not. "Oh only 100 people died today, it's fine". We've now reached the point where actual people dying just becomes a statistic, basically dehumanised in order to defend people's decisions. Alright isn't it, until you're the one that starts losing loved ones and then those numbers actually start to mean something again.

We've opened up, we're not going to go back to lockdown again. I can deal with that, but I haven't stopped wearing a mask because I'm in a classroom with 28 kids and another adult over 50 for seven hours a day, **** knows how many times I'm exposed to it and I won't risk spreading it to others. I've had four kids off with Covid this week alone, one was blue lighted to hospital because her heart rate spiked. She's seven and was a perfectly healthy child, hopefully this won't impact her long term but I doubt she'll be so lucky, nobody else I've met who's had it has fully recovered, even those who had it a year ago. So you go ahead and treat it like flu or a snotty nose or whatever you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your choices. You do that.

This virus isn't going to be stopped by a vaccine alone, it's going to require everybody taking precautions to limit interaction where possible, just like other countries have. I'd wager a bag of cash with a dollar sign on it that the UK ends up having the highest Covid figures in Europe this winter, we just don't like being told to change our habits. Electric cars? **** off. Eat less meat? Shares in Toby Carvery shoot up. We just can't do what other nations can. We're isolationist as a nation, but even at a societal level, we're incredibly self centred and we just aren't willing to take that step to pull together. Until we do, this virus isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully everybody pulls through this Christmas with no tragedy or illness, I really hope they do after the year we've had.

the flu does mutate every year….that’s why there’s a new flu vaccine every year… to counter the new variants
Any more bs?
 
It's not "only the flu", we've done this one to death. The flu doesn't mutate like this virus does, it's not as contagious either. The flu also doesn't kill over 100,000 people in a year, in fact, it's usually about 10% of that.

*Love* the idea of some having a certain amount of people dying as a measure of whether they should take precautions or not. "Oh only 100 people died today, it's fine". We've now reached the point where actual people dying just becomes a statistic, basically dehumanised in order to defend people's decisions. Alright isn't it, until you're the one that starts losing loved ones and then those numbers actually start to mean something again.

We've opened up, we're not going to go back to lockdown again. I can deal with that, but I haven't stopped wearing a mask because I'm in a classroom with 28 kids and another adult over 50 for seven hours a day, **** knows how many times I'm exposed to it and I won't risk spreading it to others. I've had four kids off with Covid this week alone, one was blue lighted to hospital because her heart rate spiked. She's seven and was a perfectly healthy child, hopefully this won't impact her long term but I doubt she'll be so lucky, nobody else I've met who's had it has fully recovered, even those who had it a year ago. So you go ahead and treat it like flu or a snotty nose or whatever you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your choices. You do that.

This virus isn't going to be stopped by a vaccine alone, it's going to require everybody taking precautions to limit interaction where possible, just like other countries have. I'd wager a bag of cash with a dollar sign on it that the UK ends up having the highest Covid figures in Europe this winter, we just don't like being told to change our habits. Electric cars? **** off. Eat less meat? Shares in Toby Carvery shoot up. We just can't do what other nations can. We're isolationist as a nation, but even at a societal level, we're incredibly self centred and we just aren't willing to take that step to pull together. Until we do, this virus isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully everybody pulls through this Christmas with no tragedy or illness, I really hope they do after the year we've had.

In 1919 over 220,000 died from flu in the UK out of a smaller population. Now people who get it don’t suffer as badly. Maybe vaccinations work?
 
In 1919 over 220,000 died from flu in the UK out of a smaller population. Now people who get it don’t suffer as badly. Maybe vaccinations work?

Practically all modern strains of flu mutated from that Spanish flu crossed with variants which crossed species boundries.

The reason less people die from it is it's mutations quickly became less virulent.
 
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I didn't say it didn't mutate at all, it'd be strange if it didn't, I said it doesn't mutate like this one does.

What do you mean it doesn’t mutate like this one? All viruses mutate in an unpredictable way, that’s what mutation means.

Covid 19 mutates in exactly the same way as any other influenza virus