Coronavirus

[Solid Air]

I've not smoked since the first lockdown, so you fookers aint getting rid of me that easy.

i stopped in 2015 which seems a really good move now .

 

[Spurlock]

How dare NHS staff have a moment spare, if they aren't working 24 hours solid, they should be ****ing miserable!!!

fair enough but I think people who make TikTok videos are ****s

plus they really should make them at home

not around the corner from someone’s Grandma on her deathbed

just how I feel about a load of pricks dancin around on a hospital ward...not everything is a joke thing

 

[Big Ern]

Yet cigarettes are legally sold

COVID nowhere near that, not even close, and the country is being destroyed and people suffering and dying.

When put into context, these lockdowns are ****ing insane

If its really all about insane measures to save lives, then.. 400k a year deaths, that;s a lot, where are the insane measures to save 400k people every year and enormous costs to the NHS treating smokers

The average death age of a smoker is much lower than the average age of a COVID death.

Where's the panic over smoking?

you mean there isn't a smoking ban and I'm actually legally allowed to smoke in cinema's and pubs?

 

[brb]

i stopped in 2015 which seems a really good move now .

Yes mate. Someone just pointed out to me, if I needed to go on a ventilator, I'd stick more chance without that shhite inside me, plus I didn't smoke indoors anyway, so all round it just became easier to pack it in for a while...

Plus ive had to be put under several times, when I've needed surgery, and I got to thinking how many times can they put me under, before I don't come round! Although probably a nice way of going.

 

[Solid Air]

Yes mate. Someone just pointed out to me, if I needed to go on a ventilator, I'd stick more chance without that shhite inside me, plus I didn't smoke indoors anyway, so all round it just became easier to pack it in for a while...

Plus ive had to be put under several times, when I've needed surgery, and I got to thinking how many times can they put me under, before I don't come round! Although probably a nice way of going.

that last bit had occurred to me too

i just never restarted after my last stay in hosp which i found really easy probably helped that i wasn't fit enough to work as i used to use the *** breaks as a way of hiding away when the staff were getting on my tits .

 

[Willhoops]

fair enough but I think people who make TikTok videos are ****s

plus they really should make them at home

not around the corner from someone’s Grandma on her deathbed

just how I feel about a load of pricks dancin around on a hospital ward...not everything is a joke thing

Have they really danced around someones death bed? Has anyone been involved in a video that doesn't want to be? Working in a hospital must be seriously depressing at times, think I'd need a laugh to cheer me up, depressed people don't make the best decisions or have the best judgement. Tiktiok is not something I do or am interested in but are they really hurting anyone?

 

[Spurlock]

Have they really danced around someones death bed? Has anyone been involved in a video that doesn't want to be? Working in a hospital must be seriously depressing at times, think I'd need a laugh to cheer me up, depressed people don't make the best decisions or have the best judgement. Tiktiok is not something I do or am interested in but are they really hurting anyone?

Me

I hate TikTok

 

[Willhoops]

Me

I hate TikTok

Well ignore it, simples.

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

Me

I hate TikTok

Me too, it’s for look at me ****s

 

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[O'l Gravy Leg.]

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Yet cigarettes are legally sold

COVID nowhere near that, not even close, and the country is being destroyed and people suffering and dying.

When put into context, these lockdowns are ****ing insane

If its really all about insane measures to save lives, then.. 400k a year deaths, that;s a lot, where are the insane measures to save 400k people every year and enormous costs to the NHS treating smokers

The average death age of a smoker is much lower than the average age of a COVID death.

Where's the panic over smoking?

EDIT: Wrong wrong wrong, not UK Data

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

you mean there isn't a smoking ban and I'm actually legally allowed to smoke in cinema's and pubs?

No. They're all ****ing shut

 

[O'l Gravy Leg.]

Denmark wants to cull 15 million minks over COVID fears
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/denmark-cull-farmed-minks-covid-fears-74020342


Bat
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Crazy

Panicfear never solves anything

 

[BobbyD]

BBCs publishing the grandma story now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-54801702

not sure why the state holds power of attorney but this should be a pretty easy quick win for the state.

 

[Solid Air]

BBCs publishing the grandma story now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-54801702

not sure why the state holds power of attorney but this should be a pretty easy quick win for the state.

it will be because there was no PoA in place and it has been decided that she is no longer capable of managing her own affairs and therefore she is no position to grant PoA to anyone .

 

[BobbyD]

it will be because there was no PoA in place and it has been decided that she is no longer capable of managing her own affairs and therefore she is no position to grant PoA to anyone .

no i understand that, but surely the closest family should hold PoA unless she was taken away originally because of abuse and neglect?

Just like inheritance is automatically given to the next of kin in the absence of a will surely the same should happen with the PoA in the cases where the person doesn't have the mental facilities to decide.

 

[brb]

no i understand that, but surely the closest family should hold PoA unless she was taken away originally because of abuse and neglect?

Just like inheritance is automatically given to the next of kin in the absence of a will surely the same should happen with the PoA in the cases where the person doesn't have the mental facilities to decide.

I don't know the answer to your question Bobby, but in my head I assume it is much like minors (children), that if the state (social services, other agencies) feel they need to intervene for a child's well-being, then they will do.

This is pretty much what I was assuming happened when the police said the family had to return her to the home. But in regards to actual PoA, no idea.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I don't know the answer to your question Bobby, but in my head I assume it is much like minors (children), that if the state (social services, other agencies) feel they need to intervene for a child's well-being, then they will do.

This is pretty much what I was assuming happened when the police said the family had to return her to the home. But in regards to actual PoA, no idea.

There might be other siblings involved, too. Someone put her in that care home, but it might not be this daughter.
Seems strange that they have partial PoA, though. I suspect there's more to this story that we're not being told.

 

[Solid Air]

no i understand that, but surely the closest family should hold PoA unless she was taken away originally because of abuse and neglect?

Just like inheritance is automatically given to the next of kin in the absence of a will surely the same should happen with the PoA in the cases where the person doesn't have the mental facilities to decide.

no Power of Attorney has to be granted when one is capable of making the decision and then the norm is to stipulate that it commences once you are no longer capable of managing own affairs . If this has not happened the state takes PoA to act on the persons behalf as a safeguard ,

 

[brb]

There might be other siblings involved, too. Someone put her in that care home, but it might not be this daughter.
Seems strange that they have partial PoA, though. I suspect there's more to this story that we're not being told.

I agree. Sadly dementia is very soul destroying to all the siblings and they will react to it all in different ways, with the best of intentions (we would hope), but someone has to make whatever decision (health) is best for mum/grandma, that may not fit our social norms, but the very nature of dementia is very cruel.