Coronavirus

[Stan]

Per day it's around 50. You can even double that to 100 if you want for arguments sake as it's mostly about half the year.

We're close to doubling that and within a week or two we'll be looking at potentially 500 deaths per day.

Yeah flu

****ing moron.

Whilst the country is in virtual lockdown to stop the spread.

 

[J๏E..]

Exactly Joe. Also putting a foreign object into your body such as a breathing tube or the other medical aid you mention, catheter, runs the risk of infection.

It sure does, that's why stents in heart arteries is a big risk and if a couple of arteries are diseased then they go to bypass. When a catheter goes in, the bodies immune system attacks it as a foreign body but the immune system tends to go over the top and forms a gel at the point of entry that causes infection. This covid-19 strain causes similar by attacking the goblet cells which keep the lungs moist and the cilliated cells (hairy ones) that push the bacteria mucus up into the throat to be spit out or down into the stomach which is one big acid bath. Again, the immune system knowing it is being attacked goes into hypo mode and causes serious liver and kidney problems. No flu kills the goblets or cilliates, just this covid-19 strain, it is a killer without doubt, Lombardy is a testament to that.. be safe, stay in and do jigsaws..

 

[brb]

I’ve never heard of a 181 in a day have you. You’re a ****ing imbecile. Just **** off to your local hospital and go lick a hand rails, catch it and we will see how you fare. Especially when the hospital is over run and they have 1 ventilator left and it’s either you or a 25 year old who gets it. My money will be on the 25 year old will get it rather than some fat slob who is angry that his client base for gigs are in self isolation.

You know what annoys me most, he's not a kid, he's not someone who is still a bit naive to the world, that I can excuse. But he's an ageing man, just like me, we are the age group most likely to catch it, there is no excuse for ignorance, he best hope that fate don't deal him a hand, because when he's struggling to breath, when you are having that tube shoved down your neck, he will regret every part of that blase' attitude.

 

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jesus. @brb does the above look like COVID 19 may have got into the Italian medical services before the Italians even knew they had a problem you reckon? A lot of pre existing conditions that probably means contact with hospitals/clinics for many of those deaths.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Do you know how many people in the UK die, on average, from the flu?

Have a guess.

Ten?

Twenty?

Fifty?

One hundred?

Five Hundred?

A thousand?

Surely not more than that?

Go on, have a guess.

What’s the answer?

They don’t tend to turn conference venues into field hospitals for other flus which makes me think this could be a biggie. That and it being illegal to go to the barber.

 

[brb]

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jesus. @brb does the above look like COVID 19 may have got into the Italian medical services before the Italians even knew they had a problem you reckon? A lot of pre existing conditions that probably means contact with hospitals/clinics for many of those deaths.

Sadly Italy like all countries were slow at reacting to the virus, that's not a criticism but reality of the situation. Lombardy has 10 million people, to put that into perspective, that's the whole population of London and it's outer suburbs. It's also the richest, so travel would have been more rife, not forgetting this is home to Milan. During infection Milan held a big football event, it is known now, that helped spread the virus even further. I'm not sure if you have ever visited the outskirts such as Venice, it's a tourist magnet, beyond a scope I myself have ever witnessed elsewhere in the world before. It also has a very old population, all of these things contributed to it becoming a breeding ground for some of the most affectionate people in the world. By the time Italy lockdown, again not a criticism, it was too late.

 

[Stan]

Don't be ****s Derek and brb. You're ignoring the real tragedy going on in this country.

Yeah, some people have died from this 'just a flu' virus, but don't forget there are people out there who are not getting the 24/7 attention they need. Nobody ever thinks of them, well, apart from themselves - they do that all the ****ing time! That's not enough though. All of the attention they deserve is being stolen by those attention seeking bastards dying in overcrowded hospitals.

You two will get your comeuppance when the [HASHTAG]#meonly[/HASHTAG] movement gets going!

 

[Treble]

Can’t believe people are moaning about the likes of Boris and Hancock getting tests when we don’t have enough...

It’s the PM and the Secretary of State for Health ffs of course we need to know if they’ve got it given they and those around them are the ones making the decisions on how the entire nation gets through this.

I think them two should be tested for a lot more tbh. A whole lot more. If that helps

 

[brb]

OMG in Italy, 919 dead in 24 hours, the worst increase in a single day in the world!

 

[brb]

541 of those deaths were in Lombardy.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

Per day it's around 50. You can even double that to 100 if you want for arguments sake as it's mostly about half the year.

We're close to doubling that and within a week or two we'll be looking at potentially 500 deaths per day.

Yeah flu

And that’s with strains that have been “contained” and for which there is a measure of resistance among the public.

The curve, over the year is fairly flat, showing that there is resistance among the public.

With the Covid-19 strain, we are going to see something more akin to a bell-shaped curve, which means that there is going to be a rapid rise in deaths, as the community builds up resistance, but the curve will eventually flatten out, and it will do this naturally. That’s because it’s a new strain of flu.

The point I am making with the intention of calming those of you of a nervous disposition, is that Covid-19 is doing exactly what every other flu strain does, except that we are seeing an accelerated unfolding of its presence in the general population, due to it being a new strain.

Most people have already have the virus, and those that haven’t had it, will eventually get it, either this year or next. As with the countless thousands that have had it, those that have yet to get it will survive, and not be even complain overly at the symptoms suffered.

Those numbers will include Boris and the ageing Prince Charles.

Some, a tiny number in comparison to the majority, unfortunately, will die. As it is with the flu, the common cold, and even the British weather.

****ing moron.[/QUOTE

Classy.

 

[Treble]

Do you know how many people in the UK die, on average, from the flu?

Have a guess.

Ten?

Twenty?

Fifty?

One hundred?

Five Hundred?

A thousand?

Surely not more than that?

Go on, have a guess.

Is the answer cheese?

 

[Fox Mulder]

the bear necessities of life will come to you.

im loving this

 

[Treble]

And that’s with strains that have been “contained” and for which there is a measure of resistance among the public.

The curve, over the year is fairly flat, showing that there is resistance among the public.

With the Covid-19 strain, we are going to see something more akin to a bell-shaped curve, which means that there is going to be a rapid rise in deaths, as the community builds up resistance, but the curve will eventually flatten out, and it will do this naturally. That’s because it’s a new strain of flu.

The point I am making with the intention of calming those of you of a nervous disposition, is that Covid-19 is doing exactly what every other flu strain does, except that we are seeing an accelerated unfolding of its presence in the general population, due to it being a new strain.

Most people have already have the virus, and those that haven’t had it, will eventually get it, either this year or next. As with the countless thousands that have had it, those that have yet to get it will survive, and not be even complain overly at the symptoms suffered.

Those numbers will include Boris and the ageing Prince Charles.

Some, a tiny number in comparison to the majority, unfortunately, will die. As it is with the flu, the common cold, and even the British weather.

It's not another flu mate

You are contradicting yourself. Yesterday you were saying that we should just let nature take its course because we have inherited immunity garnered from millions of years of generational resistance, i.e. human to human. But this virus has transferred from animal to human. There is no inherited immunity mate, so your theory above won't work on this.

 

[Looney Leftie]

And that’s with strains that have been “contained” and for which there is a measure of resistance among the public.

The curve, over the year is fairly flat, showing that there is resistance among the public.

With the Covid-19 strain, we are going to see something more akin to a bell-shaped curve, which means that there is going to be a rapid rise in deaths, as the community builds up resistance, but the curve will eventually flatten out, and it will do this naturally. That’s because it’s a new strain of flu.

The point I am making with the intention of calming those of you of a nervous disposition, is that Covid-19 is doing exactly what every other flu strain does, except that we are seeing an accelerated unfolding of its presence in the general population, due to it being a new strain.

Most people have already have the virus, and those that haven’t had it, will eventually get it, either this year or next. As with the countless thousands that have had it, those that have yet to get it will survive, and not be even complain overly at the symptoms suffered.

Those numbers will include Boris and the ageing Prince Charles.

Some, a tiny number in comparison to the majority, unfortunately, will die. As it is with the flu, the common cold, and even the British weather.

This isn't flu, this is a Corona virus related to SARS.

It's rate of contagion and fatality amongst those infected is very different.

China, South Korea and several other countries have shown that the whole population does not need to be infected and if you keep on top of those bringing the virus in then you can protect the population without accepting that everyone must die who would if they caught it.

I asked this of Diego and Com a few weeks back and they were too frit to answer.

How many deaths from this virus is acceptable to you?

 

[brb]

Grove is not answering the questions he is being asked, tactical avoidance and not reassuring.

 

[Treble]

In case you were wondering where Trump got the idea America will be open for business by Easter...

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...uHUiCksAIs2g8VtcMxZ8GF2wMDEl_xnSs5KMQ11ZBJu4m

from one of ours

 

[pompeymeowth]

Grove is not answering the questions he is being asked, tactical avoidance and not reassuring.

Grove! God help us all if it was him.

 

[brb]

Grove! God help us all if it was him.

Terrible update by him. He's not answered any of the challenging questions directly.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Terrible update by him. He's not answered any of the challenging questions directly.

In his defence he’s ****ing clueless on just about everything.