Yeah, a lot more will die, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
And you can't make a week, without having a flounce.
Yeah, a lot more will die, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
Surely the figures given out are those that have died after testing positive. Other deaths not coronavirus related are probably not broadcast.We see a lot of discussion on death rate over the virus. The stats I would like to see, and let's use Italy as an example, as they are our worst case scenario, how many people have died but did not catch the virus, but died as a result of the consequences of the virus in Italy?
Surely the figures given out are those that have died after testing positive. Other deaths not coronavirus related are probably not broadcast.
We see a lot of discussion on death rate over the virus. The stats I would like to see, and let's use Italy as an example, as they are our worst case scenario, how many people have died but did not catch the virus, but died as a result of the consequences of the virus in Italy?
Why would you be interested, it's probably a roundabout figure that accounts for average death rate, similar to the UK. Every country is going to have an increased death rate in light of the virus.Er yeah, that's why I've asked the question.
Why would you be interested, it's probably a roundabout figure that accounts for average death rate, similar to the UK. Every country is going to have an increased death rate in light of the virus.

My last comment was, of course, made “tongue-in-cheek,” but I do take issue with the projected number of deaths.
On the basis that it is a complete over exaggeration.
I would imagine it's a case of saving the ones that have no underlying issues across the board, virus related or not.What the fook is a roundabout figure?
The reason I was interested was because it was an alarming feed that came out of Italy. They were trying to get the message across, everyone is focusing on the virus...hence some complacency like we have seen in London, but they wanted to change the message to say, if you have a heart attack or a stroke or any other medical life threatening condition, those people will die, that may have stood a chance of surviving.
Seems to be some chat coming out around the drug Hydroxychloroquine in the fight against the virus, this is a prescribed drug but would be readily available. It's an anti malarial drug also used in the fight against rheumatic pain.
I would imagine it's a case of saving the ones that have no underlying issues across the board, virus related or not.
What I meant by roundabout figure, is average death rate per year.
They've known it helps reduce symptoms and possibly speed up recovery for a while.
This is from 6 weeks a go
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0
Research released yesterday showed those not in ICU recover within 6 days if given HCQ and a regular anti biotic
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Definitely going to help and I think is already being used in the far East.
Can I just ask, why are people still putting cards through doors
Although the risk is very low, I thought the virus could still be spread by parcels, post, junk mail?
https://www.health.com/condition/in...virus/can-the-coronavirus-spread-through-mail
There are around 60+ countries that have zero infections. I can't find the list atm but I think Djibouti may be on it
Before the lockdown, get a ticket out there... not for 7 days, at least a year until it all blows over![]()

My brother, who is a postman, was informed on Monday that he and his colleagues are essential service workers, and that the Royal Mail needs them to keep working as long as they show no symptoms.
A few of them pointed how out no one was calling them that when they were being privatised. But still...

What the fook is a roundabout figure? .

If it's a young healthy person crippled by the virus as opposed to a 80 year old that's had a heart attack, they'll save young person. Harsh decisions, but as you say, can't pull intensive care beds out of a hat.I don't understand your first sentence?
My view is once a bed is taken it's taken if it's saving your life. So if those beds are all occupied by virus sufferers, then there will be no beds to save the everyday incidents which require urgent medical life saving expertise.
Our school is staying open along with most other...cos the list of key workers is ****ing enormous.
Cleaners, cooks, delivery staff, everyone working in the NHS, everyone in education, refuse workers, fire fighters, shop staff, street cleaners, ware house staff, social services staff...and on and on it goes.
And the massive are turning up to work regardless of the risks to themselves
We have been asked to work though the Easter Holidays for free...all of us did not hesitate...am so proud of the team I work with.
We have 3 staff out of about 20 self isolating after coming into contact with the virus. And yet everyone comes in.
I am clinging onto these facts to balance out the stories of selfish behaviour, greed and profiteering.
Hope you're all well.