Coronavirus

[brb]

Are you in a high risk group mate?..

This is difficult to explain because I like to keep things personal, but I'll try my best;

I would NOT be classed as a high risk group due to the virus. However, I could be classed as an at risk UNRELATED to the virus. So what I mean by that is due to this virus I may not receive the same level of medical attention that I previously had. Therefore I've had the worry of working out an action plan for myself in a worst case scenario. So if the question was, in a worst case scenario could I fall seriously ill as a consequence of our hospitals becoming over-run, yes. Could I be needing urgent medical attention, yes. But others are in far more need than me at this time. a separate fear is that if you even go to hospital at the moment, you risk picking up the virus, it's catch 22 situation. You could be damned if you do and damned if you don't!

 

[PINKIE]

Can I just ask, why are people still putting cards through doors

Although the risk is very low, I thought the virus could still be spread by parcels, post, junk mail?

https://www.health.com/condition/in...virus/can-the-coronavirus-spread-through-mail

Balance of risks I suppose. The risk of a vulnerable person suffering by not being able to get food etc is probably far greater than the risk of spreading the virus by posting a help card through their door.

Thats an assumption of course, but I think it’s better to do it, rather than not.

 

[brb]

Balance of risks I suppose. The risk of a vulnerable person suffering by not being able to get food etc is probably far greater than the risk of spreading the virus by posting a help card through their door.

Thats an assumption of course, but I think it’s better to do it, rather than not.

Fair enough mate

 

[PINKIE]

Incidentally, I have read an article written by one scientist who puts forward the argument for letting this virus do its worst, like every other flu strain in recorded history, so that we build a natural immunity to it. I see the logic in that.

Yeah, a lot more will die, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

It’s a spectacularly bad idea. Not only would potentially hundreds of thousands die, it would also crush the health care system in the process.

Best case scenario is to limit the curve of infection, so that the infrastructure can cope with it.

corona virus is with us now, in time we will build immunity and be able to offer a vaccine for the vulnerable, letting it ‘rip’ through society is a woeful idea.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

This is difficult to explain because I like to keep things personal, but I'll try my best;

I would NOT be classed as a high risk group due to the virus. However, I could be classed as an at risk UNRELATED to the virus. So what I mean by that is due to this virus I may not receive the same level of medical attention that I previously had. Therefore I've had the worry of working out an action plan for myself in a worst case scenario. So if the question was, in a worst case scenario could I fall seriously ill as a consequence of our hospitals becoming over-run, yes. Could I be needing urgent medical attention, yes. But others are in far more need than me at this time. a separate fear is that if you even go to hospital at the moment, you risk picking up the virus, it's catch 22 situation. You could be damned if you do and damned if you don't!

Yeah my old man is similar. Needs a blood test every eight weeks to tweak his medication which happens to be due this week. They’ve bumped him back a couple of weeks for now which shouldn’t be an issue but depending on how out of line his current levels are it will be a big issue eventually.

 

[brb]

It’s a spectacularly bad idea. Not only would potentially hundreds of thousands die, it would also crush the health care system in the process.

Best case scenario is to limit the curve of infection, so that the infrastructure can cope with it.

corona virus is with us now, in time we will build immunity and be able to offer a vaccine for the vulnerable, letting it ‘rip’ through society is a woeful idea.

Exactly the bit I've bolded, this is what i've been trying to tell anyone that wants to listen. It don't have to be the virus to kill your loved one, but it could be as a consequence of the virus.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I would be without a scuzzy tabloid press that deals in scaremongering and over sensationalism, and without a media that misinforms the public, and I would rather that people act more rationally and without the degrees of ignorance that I have witnessed.

Incidentally, I have read an article written by one scientist who puts forward the argument for letting this virus do its worst, like every other flu strain in recorded history, so that we build a natural immunity to it. I see the logic in that.

Yeah, a lot more will die, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

We abandoned that idea after a couple of days because it was on course to kill half a million poor ****s. You may have noticed it in the news.

 

[PINKIE]

Today China have allowed people in Wuhan to leave their homes for the first time in six weeks.

Not convinced they would do this if there was a big risk of re-infection

I had a message from my friends in China earlier. They have today been allowed out to play in the park, everybody is still wearing face masks, but they are relieved to be out.

my friend’s main message to me was keep the elderly and vulnerable in lock down and make sure you’ve got local supply chains working effectively.

this will pass, but we need to manage it properly.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

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Nice idea

 

[Stan]

I would be without a scuzzy tabloid press that deals in scaremongering and over sensationalism, and without a media that misinforms the public, and I would rather that people act more rationally and without the degrees of ignorance that I have witnessed.

Incidentally, I have read an article written by one scientist who puts forward the argument for letting this virus do its worst, like every other flu strain in recorded history, so that we build a natural immunity to it. I see the logic in that.

Yeah, a lot more will die, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

That was the government’s initial plan brains.

 

[armchairblue]

This is difficult to explain because I like to keep things personal, but I'll try my best;

I would NOT be classed as a high risk group due to the virus. However, I could be classed as an at risk UNRELATED to the virus. So what I mean by that is due to this virus I may not receive the same level of medical attention that I previously had. Therefore I've had the worry of working out an action plan for myself in a worst case scenario. So if the question was, in a worst case scenario could I fall seriously ill as a consequence of our hospitals becoming over-run, yes. Could I be needing urgent medical attention, yes. But others are in far more need than me at this time. a separate fear is that if you even go to hospital at the moment, you risk picking up the virus, it's catch 22 situation. You could be damned if you do and damned if you don't!

Damned if you do or don't.......I've got some sort of mild asthma that is much worse with any sort of viral infection.Thing is
if your luck is out its out!....I was in a packed canarian airport yesterday for about 2 hours,so now i'm sitting and thinking...

 

[Hoddle is a god]

It’s a spectacularly bad idea. Not only would potentially hundreds of thousands die, it would also crush the health care system in the process.

Best case scenario is to limit the curve of infection, so that the infrastructure can cope with it.

corona virus is with us now, in time we will build immunity and be able to offer a vaccine for the vulnerable, letting it ‘rip’ through society is a woeful idea.

My last comment was, of course, made “tongue-in-cheek,” but I do take issue with the projected number of deaths.

On the basis that it is a complete over exaggeration.

 

[brb]

Yeah my old man is similar. Needs a blood test every eight weeks to tweak his medication which happens to be due this week. They’ve bumped him back a couple of weeks for now which shouldn’t be an issue but depending on how out of line his current levels are it will be a big issue eventually.

Exactly, this is the part that is not registering with people, when they think we are scaremongering over the virus. It's not always the virus we fear, but the consequences if all the resource is dedicated to it and it then becomes over-run. We need to keep the numbers affected down, so we can continue to treat every medical emergency.

 

[Big Ern]

It’s a spectacularly bad idea. Not only would potentially hundreds of thousands die, it would also crush the health care system in the process.

Best case scenario is to limit the curve of infection, so that the infrastructure can cope with it.

corona virus is with us now, in time we will build immunity and be able to offer a vaccine for the vulnerable, letting it ‘rip’ through society is a woeful idea.

but it would also save £billions in pension payouts.

 

[Stan]

Balance of risks I suppose. The risk of a vulnerable person suffering by not being able to get food etc is probably far greater than the risk of spreading the virus by posting a help card through their door.

Thats an assumption of course, but I think it’s better to do it, rather than not.

I’ve just done a letter drop on our street. I wore gloves. I wasn’t wearing gloves when I folded the letters. Or when I last wiped my arse but that’s not relevant.

 

[PINKIE]

Exactly the bit I've bolded, this is what i've been trying to tell anyone that wants to listen. It don't have to be the virus to kill your loved one, but it could be as a consequence of the virus.

Exactly. It’s not news that the NHS is struggling to cope at the best of times.

Add another 500k of intensive cases to that all at the same time and it doesn’t take a genius to work out that the whole system would topple over.

not only that, but even those who are well enough not to need hospitalisation would still need to isolate all at the same time, so that’s doctors, nurses, police, emergency workers, transport drivers, supermarket workers, delivery drivers and on and on the list goes.

it would cripple the county and compete pandemonium would quickly set in.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

I had a message from my friends in China earlier. They have today been allowed out to play in the park, everybody is still wearing face masks, but they are relieved to be out.

my friend’s main message to me was keep the elderly and vulnerable in lock down and make sure you’ve got local supply chains working effectively.

this will pass, but we need to manage it properly.

Yay!

So glad to hear that the brutal suppression of individual liberties has been lifted in China to permit your friends to stretch their legs and take their dogs for a **** in the park.

Don’t worry, it’ll be back to the usual jack booted tyranny tomorrow.

All for the greater good, yeah, Pix!

 

[PINKIE]

Yay!

So glad to hear that the brutal suppression of individual liberties has been lifted in China to permit your friends to stretch their legs and take their dogs for a **** in the park.

Don’t worry, it’ll be back to the usual jack booted tyranny tomorrow.

All for the greater good, yeah, Pix!

They were on lockdown mate, in order to limit the spread of infection.

I’m not interested in arguing with you about it. You’re entitled to your opinion, I just hope you and your family stay safe and don’t become unwell.

 

[PINKIE]

My last comment was, of course, made “tongue-in-cheek,” but I do take issue with the projected number of deaths.

On the basis that it is a complete over exaggeration.

Those numbers were worst case scenario, hence the measures to prevent that scenario from occurring.

 

[brb]

We see a lot of discussion on death rate over the virus. The stats I would like to see, and let's use Italy as an example, as they are our worst case scenario, how many people have died but did not catch the virus, but died as a result of the consequences of the virus in Italy?