Coronavirus

[brb]

Anyone know how old Treble is

 

[Tobes]

But the choice shouldn't be made simply on age but where the need is greatest.

That’s not how it works. They’ll make battlefield type decisions based on age and likelihood of survival. That’s why allowing this thing to spread unhindered is such a ****e idea. Herd immunity my ****ing arse.

 

[Stan]

This is a message from a GP mate of mine last Friday on what they have been told might happen;

"Swansea would need 12,000 ITU beds to cope at the peak. It hasn’t got 100.
Plan would be for no-one over 65 to be admitted to hospital as they wouldn’t have capacity to treat them anyway. They’d just be made comfortable and left at home.
Hopefully won’t be as bad as predicted."

5% of the whole population of the city.

Extrapolate that to 5% of the population of Britain!

Can't help thinking it's a mistake and they've added a zero! Hopefully.

This figure has been contradicted by another person in the medical profession who works at the main hospital, they reckon nowhere near that at current infection rates, if they stay as well managed as possible.

With figures like this in the public domain people will indeed panic. Especially in Britain.

We have two good friends who are GPs. Both were pretty relaxed about it to begin with, both now think the measures being taken are too little, too late. Hopefully they’re both wrong.

 

[Treble]

That's life mate, always been the unwritten rule in life, mums and children first or in this case the young first.

I just think that in this instance it's the elderly that need it most.

If that's been written the way it comes across in Chief's post then that's utter bollocks. Btw I know we applaud the NHS and fair enough, but I've seen first hand doctors and nurses writing someone off... and she was in her 30's. So I don't think any better or worse of anyone simply because they wear a white coat.

 

[PINKIE]

That’s not how it works. They’ll make battlefield type decisions based on age and likelihood of survival. That’s why allowing this thing to spread unhindered is such a ****e idea. Herd immunity my ****ing arse.

The herd immunity idea is so ****ing negligent. It will cost tens of thousands of lives due to the inability of the NHS to cope with the demand.

Would have been better to test, trace and isolate to try and limit the spread, sadly I think we are now beyond that point.

 

[brb]

I just think that in this instance it's the elderly that need it most.

If that's been written the way it comes across in Chief's post then that's utter bollocks. Btw I know we applaud the NHS and fair enough, but I've seen first hand doctors and nurses writing someone off... and she was in her 30's. So I don't think any better or worse of anyone simply because they wear a white coat.

Calm down, don't worry mate. Look if the worst happens, when you get to the hospital, just ask what list you are on, if you're on the green clipboard, you survive, if they pull out the black clipboard....

 

[brb]

[HASHTAG]#PrayFor[/HASHTAG]Treble

 

[Treble]

That’s not how it works. They’ll make battlefield type decisions based on age and likelihood of survival. That’s why allowing this thing to spread unhindered is such a ****e idea. Herd immunity my ****ing arse.

OK so the over-65's are just collateral damage.

Righto, well we'll see how everyone feels about that when it's their elderly loved one being told they can stay at home and die quietly. Despite paying a lifetime of taxes to fund the fcking thing.

 

[Tobes]

The herd immunity idea is so ****ing negligent. It will cost tens of thousands of lives due to the inability of the NHS to cope with the demand.

Would have been better to test, trace and isolate to try and limit the spread, sadly I think we are now beyond that point.

Stopping people wandering in without testing or isolation from known affected areas might have been a decent start like, but that horse has long since bolted.

The strategy has been lax and way too slow to this point.

 

[Chief]

Why wouldn't they have capacity to treat someone over 65?

Because they don't have the beds to?

Based on those figures.

Which, instinctively, seem exaggerated to me.

 

[brb]

OK so the over-65's are just collateral damage.

Righto, well we'll see how everyone feels about that when it's their elderly loved one being told they can stay at home and die quietly. Despite paying a lifetime of taxes to fund the fcking thing.

 

[Treble]

Because they don't have the beds to?

Based on those figures.

Which, instinctively, seem exaggerated to me.

I get they don't have the beds, I just don't see why they've applied it to the over 65's. I don't see why anyone should be excluded in advance that's all.

Aye, I hope it is exaggerated.

 

[Tobes]

OK so the over-65's are just collateral damage.

Righto, well we'll see how everyone feels about that when it's their elderly loved one being told they can stay at home and die quietly. Despite paying a lifetime of taxes to fund the fcking thing.

Exactly.

Once the rank realities of this, becomes tangible to people as it starts to affect their own or people they know. Then, the, it’s just the flu attitude will change dramatically. Only it’ll be too late for many.

 

[brb]

I suppose to make it fairer, they could put all the sick names in a hat each day, and draw lots on who lives. See it a bit like winning the lottery.

 

[Chief]

OK so the over-65's are just collateral damage.

Righto, well we'll see how everyone feels about that when it's their elderly loved one being told they can stay at home and die quietly. Despite paying a lifetime of taxes to fund the fcking thing.

My own mother developed late onset asthma type thing a couple of years back. Coughs all the time etc. Is 76.

She's adamant that she won't say indoors. Was moaning the bridge club had closed!

I mean, for **** sake, just do what they say.

 

[Treble]

My own mother developed late onset asthma type thing a couple of years back. Coughs all the time etc. Is 76.

She's adamant that she won't say indoors. Was moaning the bridge club had closed!

I mean, for **** sake, just do what they say.

I started doing all the shopping for my parents last week. Today I couldn't go so told my dad I'll do it tomorrow. He then says, it's ok I need to go the GP's to put in a repeat pres so I can do it then

I told him that wasn't a good idea. So picked up his repeat pres from him and will be dropping it off tomorrow. He honestly couldn't see the problem with doing it.

 

[PINKIE]

My own mother developed late onset asthma type thing a couple of years back. Coughs all the time etc. Is 76.

She's adamant that she won't say indoors. Was moaning the bridge club had closed!

I mean, for **** sake, just do what they say.

She doesn't have to stay indoors. But yeah definitely don't go to the bridge club.

 

[Chief]

She doesn't have to stay indoors. But yeah definitely don't go to the bridge club.

No, I know that and worded it wrong. I mean she's (seemingly) not willing to stop doing her thing.

 

[brb]

I started doing all the shopping for my parents last week. Today I couldn't go so told my dad I'll do it tomorrow. He then says, it's ok I need to go the GP's to put in a repeat pres so I can do it then

I told him that wasn't a good idea. So picked up his repeat pres from him and will be dropping it off tomorrow. He honestly couldn't see the problem with doing it.

I don't know if it's something you would consider, but I do all my repeat prescriptions online. It's so easy, you just go online, click your meds in the repeat section, and within 3 working days you go and pick your meds up directly from the chemist.

 

[Diego]

No, I know that and worded it wrong. I mean she's (seemingly) not willing to stop doing her thing.

Mate, you get to an age and your thing is your thing. I have a 69yo sister who has had a massive heart attack and now is in danger from just about everything, she just carries on with her life and says what happens happens.