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Energy bills: Charities warn people against not paying

People are being warned of the consequences of not paying their energy bills, as a campaign to refuse payment gathers supporters.

The Don't Pay group, which is demanding a reduction of bills to an affordable level, says more than 80,000 people have pledged to cancel their direct debit payments from 1 October.

This is the date the price cap - the maximum amount suppliers can charge customers in England, Scotland and Wales for each unit of energy - increases.

Analysts are forecasting the typical customer is likely to pay £3,358 a year from October, up from £1,971 a year in April.

Don't Pay says millions of people won't be able to afford their energy bills this winter - and that its campaign is the only way to force the government and energy companies to take action.

The group also says it won't take any action unless one million people sign up and it is "consulting extensively" with legal and personal debt experts.

But charities have warned not paying energy bills has very serious consequences for consumers.

What happens if you don't pay your energy bills?

If you don't agree a payment plan with your supplier, they might try to force you to have a pre-payment meter installed.

In very rare cases, if you haven't paid a bill after 28 days, you might be threatened with disconnection of your supply but you'll normally be offered a meter instead.

Your supplier must give you a chance to pay your debt through a plan first.

If you've reached State Pension age, your supplier can't disconnect you between 1 October and 31 March if either, you live alone or you only live with other people who have reached State Pension age, or children under 18 years old.

Your supplier could also pass your details to a debt collection agency - and there could be charges to cover the cost of this - according to debt charity StepChange.

Many suppliers also charge extra fees for late payments, so this could be another additional cost.

Paying by direct debit is normally the cheapest way to pay for electricity and gas, so if you cancel your direct debit, your bills will likely be higher.

Finally, not paying bills could damage your credit rating and make it harder to borrow money in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62435432


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But on the other hand, how about bollocks?
 
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So how many they got so far on this petition?

I'm assuming Archers & Piskie aint paying, anyone else?
 
As it gets closer to the October and probably moreso after the price cap rise more and more will consider joining the Don't Pay campaign. Many probably won't have much of a choice anyway as they won't be able to make the payments.

Anyway not sure how accurate this is but...

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If true, there's something to be said for power in numbers. Millions cannot be ignored when it comes to ££££s in the pocket of these energy companies and that's all they seem to care about.

What's concerning is there seems to be little or no long term planning to tackle the hardship that's inevitably going to hit millions of households after October.
 
As it gets closer to the October and probably moreso after the price cap rise more and more will consider joining the Don't Pay campaign. Many probably won't have much of a choice anyway as they won't be able to make the payments.

Anyway not sure how accurate this is but...

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If true, there's something to be said for power in numbers. Millions cannot be ignored when it comes to ££££s in the pocket of these energy companies and that's all they seem to care about.

What's concerning is there seems to be little or no long term planning to tackle the hardship that's inevitably going to hit millions of households after October.

This is the route I've decided I'm going to take. I'm going to write to my energy supplier and tell them what I'm doing and that it is part of a wider protest. I am going to raise a complaint with them about the price of my bill and tell them that it is disproportionate to the amount of energy that I actually use. I know what their response will be, but I'll stick it out and see what happens. I might end up having to pay it in the end, but I feel that the more people get on board the bigger the impact will be

You'll have those who will mock this, and say it won't achieve anything, but history is littered with people like this who are happy to reap the benefits of other's putting their necks on the block, but aren't willing to do anything about it themselves.
 
How many of you guys ate gonna hey a booster when they start rolling it out

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No like aguero and the thousands of others that just dropped
I don't follow your logic tbh.

1. There were lots of cases of professional and amateur sports people collapsing, dying or being diagnosed with heart problems pre covid.

An ex West Ham player died, an ex Newcastle player died and fabrice Muwamba collapsed at spurs are just 3 examples of players from the Premier league.

2. Fifa released a report in 2020 (which was commissioned and written before covid vaccinations) which talked about the 50 plus cases of players who died during or just after playing a game during the years 2014-2018.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing

3. There has been concern regarding the sudden death of athletes (from non injuries) for decades and recorded deaths affect most sports.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes#:~:text=Causes,-The sudden cardiac&text=While most causes of sudden,a blow to the chest.

Most sports authorities have been looking at developing screening procedures in order to test people to see who could be at risk.

It feels like you are trying to make this fit into your view on the vaccines.
 
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I don't follow your logic tbh.

1. There were lots of cases of professional and amateur sports people collapsing, dying or being diagnosed with heart problems pre covid.

An ex West Ham player died, an ex Newcastle player died and fabrice Muwamba collapsed at spurs are just 3 examples of players from the Premier league.

2. Fifa released a report in 2020 (which was commissioned and written before covid vaccinations) which talked about the 50 plus cases of players who died during or just after playing a game during the years 2014-2018.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing

3. There has been concern regarding the sudden death of athletes (from non injuries) for decades and recorded deaths affect most sports.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes#:~:text=Causes,-The sudden cardiac&text=While most causes of sudden,a blow to the chest.

Most sports authorities have been looking at eveloping screening procedures in order to test people to see who could be at risk.

It feels like you are trying to make this fit into your view on the vaccines.


We’re these athletes vaxxed? That’s the question
 
I don't follow your logic tbh.

1. There were lots of cases of professional and amateur sports people collapsing, dying or being diagnosed with heart problems pre covid.

An ex West Ham player died, an ex Newcastle player died and fabrice Muwamba collapsed at spurs are just 3 examples of players from the Premier league.

2. Fifa released a report in 2020 (which was commissioned and written before covid vaccinations) which talked about the 50 plus cases of players who died during or just after playing a game during the years 2014-2018.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing

3. There has been concern regarding the sudden death of athletes (from non injuries) for decades and recorded deaths affect most sports.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes#:~:text=Causes,-The sudden cardiac&text=While most causes of sudden,a blow to the chest.

Most sports authorities have been looking at developing screening procedures in order to test people to see who could be at risk.

It feels like you are trying to make this fit into your view on the vaccines.

From what I just read it seems more like your the one trying to cover up the increase tbf
 
From what I just read it seems more like your the one trying to cover up the increase tbf

That makes no sense.
I am simply pointing at evidence that shows that these unexpected deaths of sports men and women have been occurring for a long time.
You've said that "aguero and thousands of others" show its a problem caused by vaccinations.

You offered no evidence that Aguero was an issue caused by his vaccination and who are the "thousands" of other sports people affected.

You said no to Eriksen when I asked if you meant him...why?
I asked cos I was genuinely interested if there was any evidence that his vaccination negatively effected him.

You obviously ain't interested in a proper discussion so we'll leave it there
 
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