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I've done the whole recruitment thing. You can't really get an impression of somebody until you meet them in interview, but the thing that will make you more likely to get you that interview in the first place is a degree. The jobs I used to recruit for in the NHS would attract 75-100 applicants, so you're reading through tonnes of guff just to get to shortlisting stage. And assuming that all of those who get shortlisted have met the essential and desirable parts of the application, then you're looking for that 'bit extra'.

That said, I've interviewed some graduates who've turned out to be absolute ****ing spanners, with no clue and zero common sense.


I presume you were interviewing for office based jobs? Even then, wouldn’t relevant experience be at least as significant as educational qualifications?
 
I presume you were interviewing for office based jobs? Even then, wouldn’t relevant experience be at least as significant as educational qualifications?

They were support worker jobs mainly, with a few deputy and assistant manager roles in there and now and again a more senior management role. Given the nature of the job, relevant experience was an essential criteria, so you wouldn't even get an interview without it.

But for those who made the shortlist, I'd then be looking for something a bit extra. That could be some experience, or educational attainment. If somebody had a degree, it would demonstrate that they could work to deadlines, under pressure and would be able create presentations etc.
 
I've done the whole recruitment thing. You can't really get an impression of somebody until you meet them in interview, but the thing that will make you more likely to get you that interview in the first place is a degree. The jobs I used to recruit for in the NHS would attract 75-100 applicants, so you're reading through tonnes of guff just to get to shortlisting stage. And assuming that all of those who get shortlisted have met the essential and desirable parts of the application, then you're looking for that 'bit extra'.

That said, I've interviewed some graduates who've turned out to be absolute ****ing spanners, with no clue and zero common sense.

I've spent a lot of my career recruiting. And having shortlisted applications for interviews I was just looking for someone who wasn't bullshitting.
 
I've spent a lot of my career recruiting. And having shortlisted applications for interviews I was just looking for someone who wasn't bullshitting.

The amount of guff that comes out in interview when you press candidates on the stuff they've put on their application <laugh>
 
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Surprise, surprise, it is all our fault for all leaving the pub en masse at 10pm.

And surprise, surprise, next week that will be 'reason' for closing pubs.

Such a coward BJ for not having balls and just shutting pubs straightaway

I tend to agree but the scenes outside pubs in York over the weekend is blatantly a bunch of fckwits acting like fcwits.
 
I tend to agree but the scenes outside pubs in York over the weekend is blatantly a bunch of fckwits acting like fcwits.

Kids will be kids mate. I'd be pretty pissed off if someone stole my late teens and early youth with a lockdown. So though I'm not happy about it, i prefer not to judge them either. Whereas middle age people, seem to get their kicks at a packed B&Q, not me I hasten to add.
 
Did you find what you was looking for? <laugh>

Very rarely tbh. No joke.

On the point of graduates I think the biggest problem in teaching/teachers is that the vast majority go straight into a (40 year+) public sector career at 21 having never experienced the real world. I'd advocate nobody going into teaching until they'd done at least 5 years in the private sector. Understand what the real world is like.

This is slightly unrelated but one of my regular questions - which had little to do with the interview and more just out of curiosity, was "Name someone famous you admire and why". The number of ppl who replied "my dad" only for me to say "oh, your dad was famous... do tell" Then laugh and tell them to gtfo!
 
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Kids will be kids mate. I'd be pretty pissed off if someone stole my late teens and early youth with a lockdown. So though I'm not happy about it, i prefer not to judge them either. Whereas middle age people, seem to get their kicks at a packed B&Q, not me I hasten to add.

Not sure if we're talking about the same thing but it weren't just kids at kicking out time outside those pubs. Looked like all ages.
 
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Agreed. Just that it gives employers some confidence if they can see that somebody has the chutzpah to complete a degree.

uni is full of dossers stretching their non working life as much as possible because they can and fair play to them...I was one of them...it didn’t really take any chutzpahs...I did get a qualification though...still. The kid who was working his bollocks off doing an apprenticeship 5 days a week at such a young age...that’s chutzpah...I’d hire him.

Uni is very important...I just do t think anyone can talk about it like it’s some kind of science that separates the weak from the strong.

it was one big ****ing doss but like I said..I got a certificate at the end of it so everyone thinks I’m smarter than the average bear <laugh>

im not
 
uni is full of dossers stretching their non working life as much as possible because they can and fair play to them...I was one of them...it didn’t really take any chutzpahs...I did get a qualification though...still. The kid who was working his bollocks off doing an apprenticeship 5 days a week at such a young age...that’s chutzpah...I’d hire him.

Uni is very important...I just do t think anyone can talk about it like it’s some kind of science that separates the weak from the strong.

it was one big ****ing doss but like I said..I got a certificate at the end of it so everyone thinks I’m smarter than the average bear <laugh>

im not
What is Chutzpah ?
 
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