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Read somewhere the other day that a homeless charity has had a 36% rise in people under 25 contacting them since lockdown. So many unseen, or rather not spoken about, effects of this.

A ****ing **** situation all round really and as you allude to will take years to fully 'recover' from.
well, there's 37,000 extra empty beds up for grabs, that should help.
 
That's an example of what I alluded to with Boris going through the motions of easing lockdown without really balancing it against the reality of what his medical experts are saying. I get it that the economy is a big concern for the Govt, it's going to cost them (us) hundreds of billions. I don't think the easing can't be done, but the priority of how it's being done isn't being based on the science of health protection, it's based on getting the economy going again.
So do you have no issues when we locked down as we were following the scientific advice, at the time?
 
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Thanks mate but he wants to go out, the whole thing of being out and doing it himself. Plus, it gives me a chance to see them tbh. And then there's also the prescriptions. The main point is about their safety though and what I expected circumstances to be like when it would be for them.


My dad, who is 89, has been popping out occasionally to get the paper, despite the fact he and my mum have neighbours who shop for them. I tried talking him out of it, so did my mum, and their GP. **** it, on balance the benefit he gets from walking up a deserted street to get his paper like he’s been doing for years, probably outweighs the risk.
 
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So do you have no issues when we locked down as we were following the scientific advice, at the time?

We were too slow to lock down. The Govt had already been ignoring advice from medical experts because they were still dithering over the herd immunity approach.
 
So do you have no issues when we locked down as we were following the scientific advice, at the time?

You seriously still buy that ****.

Boris Johnson admitted at the select committee that he hasn't seen any of the SAGE data or minutes.

We now know that Cummings was in the SAGE meetings and reported back with his interpretation ( this is the man caught retrospectively amending his blog to make it appear that he was warning about covid19 last year)

The data we have seen from SAGE contradicts the government's decisions and the decisions are at odds with WHO advice.

Quarantining travelers from next week instead of from the beginning, stopping track and trace, allowing large gatherings when the risk was greatest, not recommending face coverings to avoid making the PPE shortage worse.
These are not scientific choices, they are political ones that the government are attempting to use a politicised advisory group to justify.
 
My dad, who is 89, has been popping out occasionally to get the paper, despite the fact he and my mum have neighbours who shop for them. I tried talking him out of it, so did my mum, and their GP. **** it, on balance the benefit he gets from walking up a deserted street to get his paper like he’s been doing for years, probably outweighs the risk.

It’s a difficult one to find a balance with. My old dear had just started to get back on her feet after my father’s death. Going out to a few social clubs and making some friends, then all of a sudden she was isolated again.

I’ve been trying to manage her own mental health with also trying to ensure she doesn’t expose herself to unnecessary risk.
 
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I was reading the proposed rule changes for rugby yesterday as they try to come up with ideas to reduce spread. Mainly it includes speeding up play so there's less time with piles of bodies on the floor and less face-to-face smashing. They're also going stop celebrations with teammates when, like that will make a difference when they've just had their face up someone elses armpit.

Surely no matter what they do it's impossible to reduce the spread with 80 minutes of quite intense contact? People are picking it up touching shelves once in a supermarket and rugby bosses think that if a ruck is 3 seconds instead of 5 then players won't be spreading it. Madness.
 
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I was reading the proposed rule changes for rugby yesterday as they try to come up with ideas to reduce spread. Mainly it includes speeding up play so there's less time with piles of bodies on the floor and less face-to-face smashing. They're also going stop celebrations with teammates when, like that will make a difference when they've just had their face up someone elses armpit.

Surely no matter what they do it's impossible to reduce the spread with 80 minutes of quite intense contact? People are picking it up touching shelves once in a supermarket and rugby bosses think that if a ruck is 3 seconds instead of 5 then players won't be spreading it. Madness.

A sport reliant on drinking your teammate’s piss and getting ****ed off by the youth team as an initiation isn’t really compliant with social distancing and should probably just be banned forever.

Unless you’re talking about League. I like League.
 
Being reported that schools are again closing in South Korea following a spike in cases, just as we are going to open our own schools.
That's because they care about whether people get infected and ill rather than whether there is enough beds to put the sick.

Our government have made that choice.
 
That's because they care about whether people get infected and ill rather than whether there is enough beds to put the sick.

Our government have made that choice.

I'll put my cards on the table, I'm not sending my daughter back to school. Not before Sept at the earliest and even then I'll assess the situation and decide then.

For me, it seems that the whole drive to open schools is based on the Govt telling people to get back to work and the subsequent childcare that will then be needed.
 
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'The legal rules inevitably do not cover all circumstances, including those that I found myself in.' - Dominic Cummings

Your wife was ill, you thought you were infectious and you've got a kid. Those circumstances are not exceptional. They're commonplace.
 
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