Coronavirus

[Treble]

I expect they are going stir crazy mate. Does the chemist not offer a delivery service? I order all my meds online now, they go straight to the pharmacy, without any interaction by me, other than by my keyboard.

They are tbf. They do go out for walks and that but obviously not the same without socialising with people.

 

[Libby]

Yes it is, and we do have to find ways to adapt, but it's not either lock everybody up or let them all do what they want.

More about managing it properly. Which for me hasn't been done properly from the start and still doesn't look right.

I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened though mate has it?

I wouldn't neccesarily disagree with your second paragraph either, I'm just stating that this so called second wave people are talking about is inevitable now no matter what happens.

We were ****ed after the initial slow response of not stopping foreign travel etc. and we now have to deal with the situation as it stands. The damage was done in February and early March in that respect.

 

[PINKIE]

I have no doubt that infection rate might increase, but I will not be blaming Boris for that, I will be blaming those who chose to ignore the guidelines, due to Cummings or something, because he is more important than protecting their own family and friends. You seem to have some fetish over Boris, my point being we are all responsible for our own actions....yes, just like Cummings, but you can either chose to take his example or not, I know exactly what I will be doing, and it won't involve cutting my nose off to spite my face.

You're right, we are all responsible for our actions. But you also know that easing restrictions will encourage more people to take risks. Yes that's down to the individual I agree. I just think the easing is being done too soon personally. I get it that everybody is in a rush to get 'back to normal', I suppose me not so much.

 

[PINKIE]

I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened though mate has it?

I wouldn't neccesarily disagree with your second paragraph either, I'm just stating that this so called second wave people are talking about is inevitable now no matter what happens.

We were ****ed after the initial slow response of not stopping foreign travel etc. and we now have to deal with the situation as it stands. The damage was done in February and early March in that respect.

I was just juxtaposing the two. We could have probably opened up some places quite fully by now if the response had been quicker and testing / tracing etc been in place.

And yes, I think a second wave is now inevitable.

 

[brb]

They are tbf. They do go out for walks and that but obviously not the same without socialising with people.

Yeah I totally understand mate, this is the difficult part of this lockdown - the problem the government have got, if they don't start lifting the measures, people are either going to start ignoring it or going absolutely nuts. I'm already going fooking nuts through having to self isolate. All I keep thinking is I wanna go to the fooking pub! I actually think some people will have massive problems coming out of this lockdown, because we've already scared the bloody life out of them, to the point of paranoia.

 

[pompeymeowth]

You're right, we are all responsible for our actions. But you also know that easing restrictions will encourage more people to take risks. Yes that's down to the individual I agree. I just think the easing is being done too soon personally. I get it that everybody is in a rush to get 'back to normal', I suppose me not so much.

I don't have a choice, it's not down to me. If my employer reopens, on the 15th of June, or whenever, I have to go to work. I'm not of independent means.

At some point, after that date, I could become infected at work, with a virus that might kill me.

 

[brb]

You're right, we are all responsible for our actions. But you also know that easing restrictions will encourage more people to take risks. Yes that's down to the individual I agree. I just think the easing is being done too soon personally. I get it that everybody is in a rush to get 'back to normal', I suppose me not so much.

I agree. People are just going nuts though, it gets to the stage where people think their like caged animals, you have got to let them out at some point, before it drives them crazy altogether.

 

[PINKIE]

Yeah I totally understand mate, this is the difficult part of this lockdown - the problem the government have got, if they don't start lifting the measures, people are either going to start ignoring it or going absolutely nuts. I'm already going fooking nuts through having to self isolate. All I keep thinking is I wanna go to the fooking pub! I actually think some people will have massive problems coming out of this lockdown, because we've already scared the bloody life out of them, to the point of paranoia.

There are a whole raft of psychological issues that will arise from this, I think that's fairly certain. I have to say, and this is just my personal view, that 'normal' isn't coming back. This is something we need to get to grips with and support people through, because the world is changing fast and I think we've got bigger challenges ahead.

 

[Libby]

I agree. People are just going nuts though, it gets to the stage where people think their like caged animals, you have got to let them out at some point, before it drives them crazy altogether.

Agreed, I began to feel extremely unstable mentally in the past couple of weeks and I'm in the very fortunate position of not having to worry about work and therefore paying my rent and putting food on the table. Dread to think what some others are going through.

Reckon the suicide statistics for this period will make for grim reading.

 

[Treble]

Yeah I totally understand mate, this is the difficult part of this lockdown - the problem the government have got, if they don't start lifting the measures, people are either going to start ignoring it or going absolutely nuts. I'm already going fooking nuts through having to self isolate. All I keep thinking is I wanna go to the fooking pub! I actually think some people will have massive problems coming out of this lockdown, because we've already scared the bloody life out of them, to the point of paranoia.

It's a tricky one brb. I'm all for easing though I'm not convinced it's the right time. What if the numbers increase simply because we were too premature and then have to lockdown again. Can you imagine what that will do to the public at large if we had to again. Some will suffer even more mentally - just at the thought of it. Others will choose to ignore it.

I think the thing I want to stress more than anything is that I do want us to get back to normal, I'm just not sure we've done enough to be there just yet. Of course the risk of a recurrence is always there but I was just expecting us to have done more before ending lockdown to minimise the risk or the severity in that happening.

 

[brb]

Agreed, I began to feel extremely unstable mentally in the past couple of weeks and I'm in the extremely fortunate position of not having to worry about work and therefore paying my rent and putting food on the table. Dread to think what some others are going through.

Reckon the suicide statistics for this period will make for grim reading.

You're right, there are going to be some massive mental health issues to sort out, they are only just waking up to that fact, or should I say actually talking about it now. It was as though MH had just been totally ignored like care homes, during this crisis.

I read somewhere local authorities have had some issues with the homeless where they took them off the streets, sadly it's not as simple as picking them up and putting them in a hotel, there is a whole wide range of problems that come with that, from drugs, through to violence/fighting and general mental health issues related to being on the streets.

This is going to take along time to sort all this crap out.

 

[brb]

It's a tricky one brb. I'm all for easing though I'm not convinced it's the right time. What if the numbers increase simply because we were too premature and then have to lockdown again. Can you imagine what that will do to the public at large if we had to again. Some will suffer even more mentally - just at the thought of it. Others will choose to ignore it.

I think the thing I want to stress more than anything is that I do want us to get back to normal, I'm just not sure we've done enough to be there just yet. Of course the risk of a recurrence is always there but I was just expecting us to have done more before ending lockdown to minimise the risk or the severity in that happening.

Yeah I'm not even pretending to know the answers mate, I'm like everyone else just getting pissed off with it all now, but hanging in there.

 

[Libby]

You're right, there are going to be some massive mental health issues to sort out, they are only just waking up to that fact, or should I say actually talking about it now. It was as though MH had just been totally ignored like care homes, during this crisis.

I read somewhere local authorities have had some issues with the homeless where they took them off the streets, sadly it's not as simple as picking them up and putting them in a hotel, there is a whole wide range of problems that come with that, from drugs, through to violence/fighting and general mental health issues related to being on the streets.

This is going to take along time to sort all this crap out.

Read somewhere the other day that a homeless charity has had a 36% rise in people under 25 contacting them since lockdown. So many unseen, or rather not spoken about, effects of this.

A ****ing **** situation all round really and as you allude to will take years to fully 'recover' from.

 

[PINKIE]

I don't have a choice, it's not down to me. If my employer reopens, on the 15th of June, or whenever, I have to go to work. I'm not of independent means.

At some point, after that date, I could become infected at work, with a virus that might kill me.

That's an example of what I alluded to with Boris going through the motions of easing lockdown without really balancing it against the reality of what his medical experts are saying. I get it that the economy is a big concern for the Govt, it's going to cost them (us) hundreds of billions. I don't think the easing can't be done, but the priority of how it's being done isn't being based on the science of health protection, it's based on getting the economy going again.

 

[pompeymeowth]

They are probably printing a leaflet, called the Joy of Six.

 

[brb]

Read somewhere the other day that a homeless charity has had a 36% rise in people under 25 contacting them since lockdown. So many unseen, or rather not spoken about, effects of this.

A ****ing **** situation all round really and as you allude to will take years to fully 'recover' from.

OMG could i imagine being an under 25 right now stuck at home with my parents for the last 10 weeks, I'd get done for murder

 

[PINKIE]

Read somewhere the other day that a homeless charity has had a 36% rise in people under 25 contacting them since lockdown. So many unseen, or rather not spoken about, effects of this.

A ****ing **** situation all round really and as you allude to will take years to fully 'recover' from.

Yeah that's tragic. The issues of domestic violence and children being neglected and abused too is heartbreaking. There are some really vulnerable people out there who have been badly affected, not by the virus, but by the consequences of what it's caused to society.

 

[brb]

Cop murders black guy, the response, people get free shopping, some of the filled shopping trolleys is unreal...

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[brb]

Fooking hell...

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[PINKIE]

Fooking hell...

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****ing hell that's mental.