Off Topic Coronavirus

[Frome-Ranger]

Depends what you mean by “this”.

Probably though, yeah.

The amount holidays have been forced into the public consciousness the last week or so worries me. Holidays abroad should not be a thing this year in my book.

The road map being much talked about and being revealed from the 22nd. I fear we are going to bungle the easing of restrictions again, Boris will cave in to his back benchers and set us on a course for the virus to take hold again.

Its great the vaccine roll out is going so well but with our already somewhat nebulous lockdown not slowing infections quick enough the thought of easing things in the near future seems like madness to me.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

The amount holidays have been forced into the public consciousness the last week or so worries me. Holidays abroad should not be a thing this year in my book.

The road map being much talked about and being revealed from the 22nd. I fear we are going to bungle the easing of restrictions again, Boris will cave in to his back benchers and set us on a course for the virus to take hold again.

Its great the vaccine roll out is going so well but with our already somewhat nebulous lockdown not slowing infections quick enough the thought of easing things in the near future seems like madness to me.

Got you. It’s a tough one. People need something to look forward to and while the first lockdown felt finite and doable, this one has been tougher for a lot of people. Just referring to travel as holidays trivialises it a bit- I don’t need to go to Dubai or a weekend in Europe but for many a travel ban means not seeing family they haven’t seen for a year or more, not being able to do their job or studies etc.

But yeah the worst thing we can do is cave in to knobheads like Steve Baker and Desmond Swayne who shouldn’t be a thing in 2021. You have to eradicate the virus first. It’s all a bit grim.

 

[Steelmonkey]

Got you. It’s a tough one. People need something to look forward to and while the first lockdown felt finite and doable, this one has been tougher for a lot of people. Just referring to travel as holidays trivialises it a bit- I don’t need to go to Dubai or a weekend in Europe but for many a travel ban means not seeing family they haven’t seen for a year or more, not being able to do their job or studies etc.

People in the UK can't see their families either (or they shouldn't be) - I've not seen mine since last January, and my wife hasn't seen hers since last summer. Yes, it's difficult for people - and bleating on about holidays when this should be the furthest doesn't help. Let's concentrate on getting everyone vaccinated and getting life back to some form of normality before worrying about two weeks in the Costa del Sol

 

[sb_73]

The amount holidays have been forced into the public consciousness the last week or so worries me. Holidays abroad should not be a thing this year in my book.

The road map being much talked about and being revealed from the 22nd. I fear we are going to bungle the easing of restrictions again, Boris will cave in to his back benchers and set us on a course for the virus to take hold again.

Its great the vaccine roll out is going so well but with our already somewhat nebulous lockdown not slowing infections quick enough the thought of easing things in the near future seems like madness to me.

The big risk is that new variants of the virus will keep the pandemic going at a permanently scary level. The only way to stop this is to bring down the level of infection to very low levels which gives the virus less opportunity to mutate. The vaccine helps in this, but ultimately it has to be done worldwide of course, so it will only work in one country if everyone gets vaccinated, strict lockdowns are followed and the borders are effectively closed, including for ****ing business travel.

All the advice being given to government from SAGE is that lockdown needs to continue until there are very few infections in the community - 10,000 is the figure given. The estimate is that today there are 750,000 people in the U.K. who have coronavirus. We will see if the government continues its strategy of ‘following the science, ish, when we think it coincides with what our backbenchers want, but definitely when it looks like apocalypse if we don’t, albeit probably two weeks too late to avoid serious consequences’.

High probability that we will loosen up restrictions and then have to reimpose them.

 

[ELLERS]

People in the UK can't see their families either (or they shouldn't be) - I've not seen mine since last January, and my wife hasn't seen hers since last summer. Yes, it's difficult for people - and bleating on about holidays when this should be the furthest doesn't help. Let's concentrate on getting everyone vaccinated and getting life back to some form of normality before worrying about two weeks in the Costa del Sol

Spot on.

 

[rangercol]

The big risk is that new variants of the virus will keep the pandemic going at a permanently scary level. The only way to stop this is to bring down the level of infection to very low levels which gives the virus less opportunity to mutate. The vaccine helps in this, but ultimately it has to be done worldwide of course, so it will only work in one country if everyone gets vaccinated, strict lockdowns are followed and the borders are effectively closed, including for ****ing business travel.

All the advice being given to government from SAGE is that lockdown needs to continue until there are very few infections in the community - 10,000 is the figure given. The estimate is that today there are 750,000 people in the U.K. who have coronavirus. We will see if the government continues its strategy of ‘following the science, ish, when we think it coincides with what our backbenchers want, but definitely when it looks like apocalypse if we don’t, albeit probably two weeks too late to avoid serious consequences’.

High probability that we will loosen up restrictions and then have to reimpose them.

I listened to some expert or other who said that, once we're all vaccinated, the virus will have little opportunity to mutate and we will be winning.
Clearly, going abroad and mixing with unvaccinated people and then being allowed back in will defeat this.
Our borders should be more or less closed and no one should be going abroad on holiday this year.

 

[rangercol]

The amount holidays have been forced into the public consciousness the last week or so worries me. Holidays abroad should not be a thing this year in my book.

The road map being much talked about and being revealed from the 22nd. I fear we are going to bungle the easing of restrictions again, Boris will cave in to his back benchers and set us on a course for the virus to take hold again.

Its great the vaccine roll out is going so well but with our already somewhat nebulous lockdown not slowing infections quick enough the thought of easing things in the near future seems like madness to me.

I completely agree about holidays, although people are struggling with nothing to look forward to and mental health is a huge ongoing problem.
I think, yet again, the problem is that the government have to manage health etc, but also need to ensure that the economy isn't completely ****ed forever.
It's an impossible task imo.

 

[ELLERS]

R number between 0.7 - 0.9

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ow-one-for-the-first-time-since-july-12216073

 

[rangercol]

Perhaps the sage scientists could stick to advising the government behind the scenes and not make public announcements on the best way out of this.
Obviously, the best way is to take a 100% scientific view, as sage does and play it completely safe till the virus is virtually gone.
However, how can any government ignore the economy to that extent?

 

[qprbeth]

I heard at lunchtime that the quarantine hotels will allow the "residents " out for walks without any checks
They will not be confined entirely to their rooms, they can use the hotel facilities and that the staff will not be regularly tested.

This sounds exactly the "holiday" we are all craving. Shame it will cost £1,750 for 10 days , otherwise I would be asking if I could do mine in Rome or Barcelona please

 

[QPR Oslo]

I heard at lunchtime that the quarantine hotels will allow the "residents " out for walks without any checks
They will not be confined entirely to their rooms, they can use the hotel facilities and that the staff will not be regularly tested.

This sounds exactly the "holiday" we are all craving. Shame it will cost £1,750 for 10 days , otherwise I would be asking if I could do mine in Rome or Barcelona please

Sounds like a sick joke. Doubt many will want to be working there.

 

[ELLERS]

I heard at lunchtime that the quarantine hotels will allow the "residents " out for walks without any checks
They will not be confined entirely to their rooms, they can use the hotel facilities and that the staff will not be regularly tested.

This sounds exactly the "holiday" we are all craving. Shame it will cost £1,750 for 10 days , otherwise I would be asking if I could do mine in Rome or Barcelona please

Not only that. They have a mini bar. Just caught some Aussie virologist on the radio saying that in Oz the airborne Particles managed to work their way through the corridor onto door handles which infected staff.
We also need to think about cabin crew and airline staff as well. Too little too late on this one.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Not only that. They have a mini bar. Just caught some Aussie virologist on the radio saying that in Oz the airborne Particles managed to work their way through the corridor onto door handles which infected staff.
We also need to think about cabin crew and airline staff as well. Too little too late on this one.

allowed 3 beers per day here in the isolation hotels
6 if you wait till a shift change and say you didn't get the first 3

 

[Stroller]

Just had my first vaccination. Quite impressed with how well it was organised, mostly by volunteers it appeared.

 

[sb_73]

Just had my first vaccination. Quite impressed with how well it was organised, mostly by volunteers it appeared.

**** off, that can’t be true. From what I’ve heard Boris Johnson personally defrosts the vaccine between his thighs, Matt Handcock applies the local anaesthetic to your arm with his tongue and then, rather less gently, Priti Patel hurls the needle like a javelin into your flesh and Rishi Sunak uses his full size and weight to jump up and down on the plunger to push the precious liquid into your muscle. In special cases little Rishi shows the lucky recipient his bank balance and laughs hysterically. All 13 million jabs have been delivered this way, with no help from volunteers, local authorities and health services or healthcare professionals. This is entirely done by the Tory Party, and anybody who contradicts this is a traitor and doom monger, and is personally responsible for the world beating death rate and economic collapse we have achieved.

At least that’s what I’ve heard.

Nice one Strolls. Be interested to hear if you have a bit of a reaction to the jab, apparently quite common amongst those who have already had COVID, but nothing to worry about.

 

[Staines R's]

I don’t get all this big thing being made about ‘COVID’ hotels being a new thing.....they’ve been going for months

 

[Stroller]

**** off, that can’t be true. From what I’ve heard Boris Johnson personally defrosts the vaccine between his thighs, Matt Handcock applies the local anaesthetic to your arm with his tongue and then, rather less gently, Priti Patel hurls the needle like a javelin into your flesh and Rishi Sunak uses his full size and weight to jump up and down on the plunger to push the precious liquid into your muscle. In special cases little Rishi shows the lucky recipient his bank balance and laughs hysterically. All 13 million jabs have been delivered this way, with no help from volunteers, local authorities and health services or healthcare professionals. This is entirely done by the Tory Party, and anybody who contradicts this is a traitor and doom monger, and is personally responsible for the world beating death rate and economic collapse we have achieved.

At least that’s what I’ve heard.

Nice one Strolls. Be interested to hear if you have a bit of a reaction to the jab, apparently quite common amongst those who have already had COVID, but nothing to worry about.

Brilliant.

 

[kiwiqpr]

You must log in or register to see images

 

[peter1954qpr]

Just had a message from my 18 year old granddaughter,she works in a nursery & is getting her 1st jab next Monday,must say I was a bit surprised

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

**** off, that can’t be true. From what I’ve heard Boris Johnson personally defrosts the vaccine between his thighs, Matt Handcock applies the local anaesthetic to your arm with his tongue and then, rather less gently, Priti Patel hurls the needle like a javelin into your flesh and Rishi Sunak uses his full size and weight to jump up and down on the plunger to push the precious liquid into your muscle. In special cases little Rishi shows the lucky recipient his bank balance and laughs hysterically. All 13 million jabs have been delivered this way, with no help from volunteers, local authorities and health services or healthcare professionals. This is entirely done by the Tory Party, and anybody who contradicts this is a traitor and doom monger, and is personally responsible for the world beating death rate and economic collapse we have achieved.

At least that’s what I’ve heard.

Nice one Strolls. Be interested to hear if you have a bit of a reaction to the jab, apparently quite common amongst those who have already had COVID, but nothing to worry about.

I remember Rishi Sunak. Wonder what he’s up to these days.