Off Topic Coronavirus

[ELLERS]

Cr2p a hospital in Wales has suspended surgery due to the number of Covid cases.

 

[Staines R's]

Good post you’re absolutely correct on all other fronts about other sectors Staines. It has to be a completely holistic approach to beating this thing.
Only you‘ve gone off topic as a distraction to the theme. The discussion was started by a question from Surrey about students and sympathy.
Enjoy the run Staines and the clearing of the mind as you pound those streets ... great for the soul!

Might of gone off subject a bit but isn’t that the way these things (and conversations) develop ?
A PB of 51.31 for 10km has definitely helped clear the head for a bit of study.

 

[Didley Squat]

With respect to you both, What you say might be the case for some but definitely not for all, and as Bob says....it’s how they are brought up.
My two studied (and partied) hard to get their degrees but have both found unable to get work in the field that they wanted (art and design and acting) so have both adapted and found other careers that they enjoy, one through the OB and the other through boxing and nutrition. They work hard, earn every penny they make and have started paying their loans AND interest back already.
To lump them all as ‘lazy, selfish students’ who are to blame for all this, falls into a trap of blame, imho, and plays right into the hands of the government.

You are correct, they’re not all lazy & selfish.
It’s the minority that ruin it for the majority.

 

[SARQPR]

Might of gone off subject a bit but isn’t that the way these things (and conversations) develop ?
A PB of 51.31 for 10km has definitely helped clear the head for a bit of study.

That's slow even for London traffic Stainsey - did you not have the blues and twos on??

 

[bobmid]

I’m sure you’ve done a great job too Bob (even at your age!!). As in many things minorities are often the exception. Only pandemic viruses don’t care about statistics and 80/20 rules. They just want a host and anyone careless enough to take it or pass it will do very nicely thank you. It doesn’t take much and people talented enough to go to university should be more than capable of knowing that and taking the right actions to make sure it doesn’t happen and ruin it for themselves, for their fellow students and for all those on the periphery of their self-centred lives

Yes I agree with that, I know your post concentrated on students but they arent the only ones spreading the virus. It wasnt so long ago that a certain high profile advisor to the PM felt like he needed to take his wife away for her birthday during lockdown. What was the punishment? **** all. !!

 

[sb_73]

I think this goes back to something Sb talked about earlier... the expectation of instant gratification and having everything delivered on a plate. The world never was like that, and certainly isn’t now. This is the time to learn how to respond correctly and effectively to a dire situation where there are no easy answers of immediate gratification. Thousands expected to turn up and get into party mode, when they should have been expecting to be adults and act responsibly to the pandemic - but they couldn’t do that and have actively caused the increases within their ‘working’ environment (for which they took out the loans they are actively complaining about, rather than saying ‘I’ve got this loan, I better act responsibly and not **** it up’). And putting up signs ‘we need beer’ isn’t going to help get any sympathy from any common sense person. They need to ‘man’ up and smell the coffee.
My business has suffered dramatically this year and putting up ‘beer’ signs won’t fix it. Complaining about my losses won’t fix it. Blaming Boris and his myriad of rule changes won’t fix it. I have to own my situation and get on with it. Act as sensibly as I can so as not to make the situation worse (and hope others do the same). I can put up with wearing a mask, not going to the pub or restaurant, not seeing family, not bitching, protecting others as best I can - it’s an inconvenience sure, but there are far more worse off than us (and they aren’t students heading off to Uni!).
Or maybe I’m just getting old!?

I would just like to point out that my comments about instant gratification etc weren’t aimed at the young, they were aimed at all of us, including myself. We’ve all been lured into thinking that it is our ‘right’ to have things our own way in perpetuity.

I have considerable sympathy for young adults at the moment, I think we (ie people of my generation) have served them extremely poorly. Plenty of idiots in every generation, but my kids, and their mates, are happy to work hard and have as much fun as possible. Just like I was at their age (now I don’t like working hard).

The kids you see on telly are just that - kids. Most of those in lockdown are first years, away from home for the first time and obviously rather overexcited and trying to impress their new friends. Of course they are daft not to have seen exactly what is happening coming, but they were also told to go to halls of residence by universities desperate to get their cash in.

Another balls up really.

 

[sb_73]

Might of gone off subject a bit but isn’t that the way these things (and conversations) develop ?
A PB of 51.31 for 10km has definitely helped clear the head for a bit of study.

That’s a very handy time young man. Just done (this morning) 6km in 30.08, but the last kilometre was seriously slow, as usually I stop at 5km. I’m classing the last one as a ‘warm down’. I reckon it would be a couple of months of build up to get anywhere near your time for 10. Think I’ll stick to the 5, I’m in maintenance mode now.

 

[Staines R's]

That’s a very handy time young man. Just done (this morning) 6km in 30.08, but the last kilometre was seriously slow, as usually I stop at 5km. I’m classing the last one as a ‘warm down’. I reckon it would be a couple of months of build up to get anywhere near your time for 10. Think I’ll stick to the 5, I’m in maintenance mode now.

What’s your PB for 5km G ? That 6km time is really good to be fair. I did a 24.40 on Friday which I was well chuffed with. Bought a new pair of trainers last week (Brooks), and had a gait measurement....it’s done wonders for my times.
This virtual race I’m doing has also helped (Lands End to John O’Groats) and I’ve ran 369 miles since 13th July...feel so much better for it.
Plus the fact I’m really enjoying getting back into boxing with the lad training me....even looking at a white collar bout if I keep on improving. Would be a laugh

 

[Stroller]

Here are the numbers of Covid hospitalisations in England in September.....

27-09-2020 241
26-09-2020 245
25-09-2020 274
24-09-2020 288
23-09-2020 314
22-09-2020 268
21-09-2020 275
20-09-2020 237
19-09-2020 204
18-09-2020 205
17-09-2020 199
16-09-2020 183
15-09-2020 194
14-09-2020 172
13-09-2020 153
12-09-2020 143
11-09-2020 135
10-09-2020 143
09-09-2020 136
08-09-2020 99
07-09-2020 84
06-09-2020 85
05-09-2020 94
04-09-2020 67
03-09-2020 69
02-09-2020 79
01-09-2020 58

Whilst there has been a drift upwards during the month, it's from a very low base and there has actually been a fall in the last few days (this may be a blip of course).

For comparison, here are the numbers for the first week of April (two weeks after lock-down started).

07/04/2020 2,744
06/04/2020 2,679
05/04/2020 2,592
04/04/2020 2,593
03/04/2020 2,564
02/04/2020 2,932
01/04/2020 3,099

There are currently 1,883 Covid patients in hospital. On 7th April there were 16,570.

Are these numbers really worthy of the extreme measures already being taken and the seemingly inevitable full lock-down which is to follow?

(ducks for cover)

 

[bobmid]

What’s your PB for 5km G ? That 6km time is really good to be fair. I did a 24.40 on Friday which I was well chuffed with. Bought a new pair of trainers last week (Brooks), and had a gait measurement....it’s done wonders for my times.
This virtual race I’m doing has also helped (Lands End to John O’Groats) and I’ve ran 369 miles since 13th July...feel so much better for it.
Plus the fact I’m really enjoying getting back into boxing with the lad training me....even looking at a white collar bout if I keep on improving. Would be a laugh

Good on ya mate. White collar eh, sweet jesus that's ruthless. I used to do it in my 20's for £200 a fight. Was a nice little earner to be fair. Couldnt think of anything worse now!

 

[sb_73]

What’s your PB for 5km G ? That 6km time is really good to be fair. I did a 24.40 on Friday which I was well chuffed with. Bought a new pair of trainers last week (Brooks), and had a gait measurement....it’s done wonders for my times.
This virtual race I’m doing has also helped (Lands End to John O’Groats) and I’ve ran 369 miles since 13th July...feel so much better for it.
Plus the fact I’m really enjoying getting back into boxing with the lad training me....even looking at a white collar bout if I keep on improving. Would be a laugh

Best for 5km is a remarkable and truly one off 23.30, which will never happen again. I couldn’t believe it and had to check smart watch and phone several times. I ran a level/downhill route rather than my usual mixed route with a couple of nasty climbs. On that I average 24.30-25.00, depending on aches and pains and how much pasta and wine I had the night before. I’ve been wearing Brooks GTS trainers throughout, on my second lockdown pair now. Given that I hadn’t run an inch on the road since my twenties until April this year I am seriously chuffed with myself. Also do 15 minutes of Woody’s lunges/squats etc including some very light stuff with (6kg) dumbbells most days (run every other day) and reckon I am fitter than I have been for decades. I still have gym membership but haven’t returned since they opened as I’m sure the current regime is doing me more good.

We are also eating much more home cooked stuff with fresh ingredients and I am fairly good at not drinking 4 nights a week (variable).

Personal health one of the few upsides of the pandemic.

We had a thread for this didn’t we?

 

[Staines R's]

Good on ya mate. White collar eh, sweet jesus that's ruthless. I used to do it in my 20's for £200 a fight. Was a nice little earner to be fair. Couldnt think of anything worse now!

You must of been pretty decent to get paid to fight Bob.....a ‘journeyman’ ? (A group of fighters who are sometimes much maligned but mostly have some excellent skills and courage)
My lad says I’d have to get a decent match up (cue midget jokes) but I’m really enjoying it again mate. Used to do a lot of martial arts when I was younger (Kick boxing, Tae Kwan Do, Kung Fu) but never appreciated the technical aspect of boxing....and of course following England for years in places like Poland never really taught you technique

 

[Staines R's]

Best for 5km is a remarkable and truly one off 23.30, which will never happen again. I couldn’t believe it and had to check smart watch and phone several times. I ran a level/downhill route rather than my usual mixed route with a couple of nasty climbs. On that I average 24.30-25.00, depending on aches and pains and how much pasta and wine I had the night before. I’ve been wearing Brooks GTS trainers throughout, on my second lockdown pair now. Given that I hadn’t run an inch on the road since my twenties until April this year I am seriously chuffed with myself. Also do 15 minutes of Woody’s lunges/squats etc including some very light stuff with (6kg) dumbbells most days (run every other day) and reckon I am fitter than I have been for decades. I still have gym membership but haven’t returned since they opened as I’m sure the current regime is doing me more good.

We are also eating much more home cooked stuff with fresh ingredients and I am fairly good at not drinking 4 nights a week (variable).

Personal health one of the few upsides of the pandemic.

We had a thread for this didn’t we?

Seriously good times mate...well impressed.

 

[colognehornet]

Here are the numbers of Covid hospitalisations in England in September.....

27-09-2020 241
26-09-2020 245
25-09-2020 274
24-09-2020 288
23-09-2020 314
22-09-2020 268
21-09-2020 275
20-09-2020 237
19-09-2020 204
18-09-2020 205
17-09-2020 199
16-09-2020 183
15-09-2020 194
14-09-2020 172
13-09-2020 153
12-09-2020 143
11-09-2020 135
10-09-2020 143
09-09-2020 136
08-09-2020 99
07-09-2020 84
06-09-2020 85
05-09-2020 94
04-09-2020 67
03-09-2020 69
02-09-2020 79
01-09-2020 58

Whilst there has been a drift upwards during the month, it's from a very low base and there has actually been a fall in the last few days (this may be a blip of course).

For comparison, here are the numbers for the first week of April (two weeks after lock-down started).

07/04/2020 2,744
06/04/2020 2,679
05/04/2020 2,592
04/04/2020 2,593
03/04/2020 2,564
02/04/2020 2,932
01/04/2020 3,099

There are currently 1,883 Covid patients in hospital. On 7th April there were 16,570.

Are these numbers really worthy of the extreme measures already being taken and the seemingly inevitable full lock-down which is to follow?

(ducks for cover)

No need to duck for cover Stroller it's a legitimate question because if the second wave is not accompanied by a parallel second wave in deaths and hospitalizations then the government's calls for extending lockdowns will lose credibility. We need to know the reasons behind these figures. Some countries like Spain and France (also the Netherlands) are experiencing a second wave which is bigger (in terms of infections) than the first one was - yet the rise in hospitalizations and fatalities is minimal. We need to know the reasons - is it because of demographic factors (more young people being infected), or is there a time lapse and the deaths will follow, or is it due to a possible mutating of the virus itself into a milder (less deadly) form ? I would be interested to hear Beth's take on this. We know that viruses mutate, and that this is normally into a milder form - is this starting to happen now, or is it too early to be sure ?

 

[sb_73]

Seriously good times mate...well impressed.

Bear in mind I’m 6ft with long legs, probably quite a few less strides required for me......

 

[sb_73]

Here are the numbers of Covid hospitalisations in England in September.....

27-09-2020 241
26-09-2020 245
25-09-2020 274
24-09-2020 288
23-09-2020 314
22-09-2020 268
21-09-2020 275
20-09-2020 237
19-09-2020 204
18-09-2020 205
17-09-2020 199
16-09-2020 183
15-09-2020 194
14-09-2020 172
13-09-2020 153
12-09-2020 143
11-09-2020 135
10-09-2020 143
09-09-2020 136
08-09-2020 99
07-09-2020 84
06-09-2020 85
05-09-2020 94
04-09-2020 67
03-09-2020 69
02-09-2020 79
01-09-2020 58

Whilst there has been a drift upwards during the month, it's from a very low base and there has actually been a fall in the last few days (this may be a blip of course).

For comparison, here are the numbers for the first week of April (two weeks after lock-down started).

07/04/2020 2,744
06/04/2020 2,679
05/04/2020 2,592
04/04/2020 2,593
03/04/2020 2,564
02/04/2020 2,932
01/04/2020 3,099

There are currently 1,883 Covid patients in hospital. On 7th April there were 16,570.

Are these numbers really worthy of the extreme measures already being taken and the seemingly inevitable full lock-down which is to follow?

(ducks for cover)

Why duck? It would be nice if a knowledgeable scientific figure with authority (yes, I know.....) said that they were tracking the trends and what it indicates about the types of people getting the disease and the severity of the disease itself, and by certain dates, if the trends are maintained, this will enable us to make evidence based decisions about the strength and nature of social distancing restrictions required, if any are.

Instead we’ll have some twat of a politician contradicting himself and blaming people.

I’m pretty certain it’s our public health doctors telling the government that we are going to hell and the NHS will collapse. Despise them as we might the instincts of this cabinet is much more light touch, open everything up than the opposite. Someone is scaring the **** out of them.

 

[Stroller]

Why duck? It would be nice if a knowledgeable scientific figure with authority (yes, I know.....) said that they were tracking the trends and what it indicates about the types of people getting the disease and the severity of the disease itself, and by certain dates, if the trends are maintained, this will enable us to make evidence based decisions about the strength and nature of social distancing restrictions required, if any are.

Instead we’ll have some twat of a politician contradicting himself and blaming people.

I’m pretty certain it’s our public health doctors telling the government that we are going to hell and the NHS will collapse. Despise them as we might the instincts of this cabinet is much more light touch, open everything up than the opposite. Someone is scaring the **** out of them.

Yes, you would hope that these trends were being tracked. It does make me wonder why all we seem to be told about is the number of new positive cases and the ridiculous statistics on how many cases per 100,000 people there are in a certain area, which are meaningless unless there are standard levels of widescale testing, including of those with no symptoms.

 

[Woodyhoopleson]

Very interesting interview with professor Dr Sucharit Bhakdi on the Richie Allen show from yesterday. 40 minutes long.

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[Tramore Ranger]

Just to bring a bit of football topicality with covid.......

Weldstone FC will be live streaming their nect home came on a screen in their bar which overlooks the pitch to a small socially distanced audience but have to black out the windows to stop the audience watching it live on the pitch ........seriously you couldn't make it up.....

 

[colognehornet]

Just to bring a bit of football topicality with covid.......

Weldstone FC will be live streaming their nect home came on a screen in their bar which overlooks the pitch to a small socially distanced audience but have to black out the windows to stop the audience watching it live on the pitch ........seriously you couldn't make it up.....

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It appears that Wealdstone, and others, are doing things all wrong - if you want fans back in the stadium you need to get relegated down to level 7 of the football pyramid. In the Southern, Northern and Isthmian leagues crowds are still the same as normal