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I did start watching how they do this on one of the news stations but it became complicated and I turned it over. It must be very difficult to know exactly where and who infected someone. I do believe they said they had a good idea at identifying certain cases.
Of course they can't, but it frustrates me. Chris Smith, a virologist often used by the BBC (and therefore obviously a far-left radical), has said that the chances of contracting the virus in an open-air situation are 'vanishingly small', which is what I've suspected all along. If this could be statistically demonstrated to be true, there would be no justification for stopping people attending outdoor sporting events
Apparently the researchers were only able to establish one possible source in just over a quarter of cases - it would certainly be possible to trace a person's movements and any contact to large groups of people over the 4-5 days between infection and positive testing. I would say that the figures are not absolutely reliable, but it doesn't really matter it's only a general guide. The one thing which it does show is that the vast majority of infections take place within 4 walls, which appears logical. So Germany's plans to close outdoor Christmas markets doesn't appear very logical if the same people will be meeting each other in smaller groups indoors.
Another study has shown that smokers are 23% less likely to get the virus
This could be because nicotine is able to block the virus from entering cells - or it may also control the immune system stopping it from dangerously over-reacting to infection. Or it could just be that smokers spend more time outdoors (or that fewer strangers go up and kiss them in the street). Anyway the WHO doesn't want this info getting out ! Nonetheless some medical authorities are experimenting with nicotine patches.I guess they can use process of elimination to work it out. For example if I live in Berkshire and only had contact with my neighbours then I caught it from them and not some bod in Newcastle who never left his house? If I only met my neighbour on Sunday then that is when I caught it. I would hate to be the fella that works that all out?Apparently the researchers were only able to establish one possible source in just over a quarter of cases - it would certainly be possible to trace a person's movements and any contact to large groups of people over the 4-5 days between infection and positive testing. I would say that the figures are not absolutely reliable, but it doesn't really matter it's only a general guide. The one thing which it does show is that the vast majority of infections take place within 4 walls, which appears logical. So Germany's plans to close outdoor Christmas markets doesn't appear very logical if the same people will be meeting each other in smaller groups indoors.
Another study has shown that smokers are 23% less likely to get the virus
I'm not convinced.
So you're sat in loftus road and some idiot sat behind you coughs all over you.
If they've got the virus, I would suggest that there would be more than a 'vanishingly small' chance of them passing it on to you.
Less chance that indoors admittedly.
I think they'd have to leave a couple of rows and seats between strangers.
People could be asked to wear these mask things that everyone's talking about.
Theres little evidence of them being beneficial.......oh wait there is....oh no there isnt.....now there is.....what are Scotland doing??
UK Government Scientist Admits Lockdown Was a “Monumental Mistake on a Global Scale”
“The cure was worse than the disease.”
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A scientific advisor to the UK government says the coronavirus lockdown was a “panic measure” and a “monumental mistake on a global scale.”
Infectious diseases expert and University of Edinburgh professor Mark Woolhouse acknowledged that the decision to lockdown in March was a “crude measure” that was enacted because “we couldn’t think of anything better to do.”
“Lockdown was a panic measure and I believe history will say trying to control Covid-19 through lockdown was a monumental mistake on a global scale, the cure was worse than the disease,” said Woolhouse, who is now calling on the government to unlock society before more damage is done.
“I never want to see national lockdown again,” he added. “It was always a temporary measure that simply delayed the stage of the epidemic we see now. It was never going to change anything fundamentally.”
The professor asserts that the impact of the response to coronavirus will be worse than the virus itself.
“I believe the harm lockdown is doing to our education, health care access, and broader aspects of our economy and society will turn out to be at least as great as the harm done by COVID-19,” said Woolhouse.
Richard Sullivan, professor of cancer at King’s College London, previously warned that there will be more excess cancer deaths over the next 5 years than the number of people who die from coronavirus in the UK due to the disruption caused by the coronavirus lockdown, which is preventing cancer victims from getting treatment.
Figures also show that there were more excess deaths during the 2017-18 flu season (around 50,000) than the total number of people in the UK who have died from coronavirus (41,433).
However, a survey conducted last month found that Brits thought around 7 per cent of the population, 5 million people, had been killed by COVID-19.
“The cure was worse than the disease.”
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John Keeble/Getty Images
A scientific advisor to the UK government says the coronavirus lockdown was a “panic measure” and a “monumental mistake on a global scale.”
Infectious diseases expert and University of Edinburgh professor Mark Woolhouse acknowledged that the decision to lockdown in March was a “crude measure” that was enacted because “we couldn’t think of anything better to do.”
“Lockdown was a panic measure and I believe history will say trying to control Covid-19 through lockdown was a monumental mistake on a global scale, the cure was worse than the disease,” said Woolhouse, who is now calling on the government to unlock society before more damage is done.
“I never want to see national lockdown again,” he added. “It was always a temporary measure that simply delayed the stage of the epidemic we see now. It was never going to change anything fundamentally.”
The professor asserts that the impact of the response to coronavirus will be worse than the virus itself.
“I believe the harm lockdown is doing to our education, health care access, and broader aspects of our economy and society will turn out to be at least as great as the harm done by COVID-19,” said Woolhouse.
Richard Sullivan, professor of cancer at King’s College London, previously warned that there will be more excess cancer deaths over the next 5 years than the number of people who die from coronavirus in the UK due to the disruption caused by the coronavirus lockdown, which is preventing cancer victims from getting treatment.
Figures also show that there were more excess deaths during the 2017-18 flu season (around 50,000) than the total number of people in the UK who have died from coronavirus (41,433).
However, a survey conducted last month found that Brits thought around 7 per cent of the population, 5 million people, had been killed by COVID-19.
Seriously safe to send kids back to school.......so why any need for face masks then? Honestly this government really need to get a ****ing grip, so say some senior Tory Mps anyhow.
So if you had school age kids would you be happy to send them back to school?
And if so would you want masks to be worn by the kids and staff?
I do have a school age child and the answer is he isnt going back to school.
Secondary just about to enter GCSE year. It's not his decision its ours as parents.
I hope he can get back safely soon
I really enjoyed my time at school (well....the social side rather than the work!) and would've found the current situation really difficult to cope with
To be honest though Stortford, we took him out way before the virus. School just wasnt working for him. We are in a fortunate/unfortunate position of my wife being at home so he gets private tuition. Costs a bit but we have made sacrifices financially. The progress has been phenomenal and what school predicted in his English GCSE was a grade 'c' at best has been blown out of the water. He has done 2 mocks receiving an 'a' and an 'a*) equivalent of anyway.
I was the total opposite, hated every minute, left at 15 to work full time. School isnt for everyone.
A class size if 30 kids all at different levels is next to impossible to teach. A one on one session 3 times a week for 1 hour has by a lot of teachers been compared to a whole term.
