People not wearing their masks correctly and fiddling with them whilst touching stuff is very evident, but it isn't a reason for the majority to not wear one imo.
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People not wearing their masks correctly and fiddling with them whilst touching stuff is very evident, but it isn't a reason for the majority to not wear one imo.
Proper lockdown measures work
Had all the world stayed at home for five weeks this would probably all be finished
But complain about masks at this late stage all you want
Had all the world stayed at home for five weeks this would probably all be finished
But complain about masks at this late stage all you want
Nice to see vindication of the point I was making months ago.
Clearly the covid death figures are hugely innacurate due to the way they have been recorded.
Someone who tested positive back in March, but has just been killed by a bus is still counted as a covid death.
The real death total is much lower.
Clearly the covid death figures are hugely innacurate due to the way they have been recorded.
Someone who tested positive back in March, but has just been killed by a bus is still counted as a covid death.
The real death total is much lower.
I've had cause to wear an oxygen mask after a couple of surgeries and on each occasion I've struggled with the nursing staff whilst trying to remove it, I feel all claustrophobic I'm not prepared to wear one now so shopping is out
Fair enough. Is it a psychological thing which makes you feel claustrophobic?
Or a medical condition to do with breathing?
I believe there are medical excemptions to wearing a mask.
But the number of deaths caused by the pandemic, and reactions to it - excess deaths - is much higher than the number attributed to the virus itself.
So you don’t need to wear a mask?
As of 30 June there were 65,000 more deaths (all causes) in 2020 in the UK than the average for the previous five years.
That’s a **** of a lot of people being hit by buses, but consider yourself vindicated.
just made Strollers point but more aggressively
Of course I will wear a mask.
I didn't say the virus wasn't a threat.
I didn't say it hasn't caused many, many deaths.
I didn't say that the government could of handled it all better which would of meant even less deaths.
I am saying that the figures can't be trusted and those who concentrate on these figures do so to cause maximum criticism to the government.
Are you attributing all 65000 to covid?
Do you feel you've got everything right about this virus since you initially dismissed it in March?
Directly and indirectly yes. I know 3 people, including one GP, who have waited over 3 months to get a cancer diagnosis after referral for tests because the NHS had virtually shut down, and in many places still appears to be. If their lives are shortened through lack of timely treatment because we were ‘protecting the NHS’ from being overwhelmed by COVID I would attribute that to COVID and the response to it.
Lockdown yes, closing the NHS no.
Back to the same old ****, I think I’ll give it a rest.
It’s not a terribly difficult equation, is it? The government knew how utterly unprepared and under-resourced the NHS was so did literally everything it could to avoid the PR of images like we saw in Italy of hospitals overrun, essentially make it a National Covid Service, even if that meant dumping a massive **** on the care home sector and kicking a huge can down the road in cancers and other illnesses.
I think that maybe that a lot of deaths involved people with underlying health issues which potentially would have reduced life span anyway. Covid was the devil that ended some lives a lot earlier.
As far as masks go. I have hayfever which is listed under the asthma umbrella. There are times when I get breathless very quickly, and have had to use an inhaler for last 5 years. I have found wearing the mask "uncomfortable" in terms of getting breath - however - if wearing one reduces the risk of catching or passing on (never been tested so I could be a carrier) then this is what I will do. At present I am living with y 80 plus year old parents so I will do what I can to protect them as well.
As far as masks go. I have hayfever which is listed under the asthma umbrella. There are times when I get breathless very quickly, and have had to use an inhaler for last 5 years. I have found wearing the mask "uncomfortable" in terms of getting breath - however - if wearing one reduces the risk of catching or passing on (never been tested so I could be a carrier) then this is what I will do. At present I am living with y 80 plus year old parents so I will do what I can to protect them as well.
Now quarantining people returning from Spain after encouraging everyone to **** off on holiday a few weeks ago.
Guess who’s in Malaga.
Guess who’s in Malaga.