1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    People not wearing their masks correctly and fiddling with them whilst touching stuff is very evident, but it isn't a reason for the majority to not wear one imo.
     
    #10161
  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    116,934
    Likes Received:
    234,949
    Proper lockdown measures work
    Had all the world stayed at home for five weeks this would probably all be finished
    But complain about masks at this late stage all you want
     
    #10162
  3. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Nice to see vindication of the point I was making months ago.
    Clearly the covid death figures are hugely innacurate due to the way they have been recorded.
    Someone who tested positive back in March, but has just been killed by a bus is still counted as a covid death.
    The real death total is much lower.
     
    #10163
  4. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    71,946
    Likes Received:
    59,273
    **** sake.
     
    #10164
  5. Steelmonkey

    Steelmonkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2011
    Messages:
    25,835
    Likes Received:
    49,427
    Social media scientists...

     
    #10165
    kiwiqpr likes this.
  6. peter1954qpr

    peter1954qpr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    3,864
    Likes Received:
    2,430
    I've had cause to wear an oxygen mask after a couple of surgeries and on each occasion I've struggled with the nursing staff whilst trying to remove it, I feel all claustrophobic I'm not prepared to wear one now so shopping is out
     
    #10166
  7. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Fair enough. Is it a psychological thing which makes you feel claustrophobic?
    Or a medical condition to do with breathing?
    I believe there are medical excemptions to wearing a mask.
     
    #10167
  8. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,946
    Likes Received:
    24,422
    But the number of deaths caused by the pandemic, and reactions to it - excess deaths - is much higher than the number attributed to the virus itself.
     
    #10168
  9. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Totally agree.
     
    #10169
  10. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    31,218
    Likes Received:
    29,376
    So you don’t need to wear a mask?

    As of 30 June there were 65,000 more deaths (all causes) in 2020 in the UK than the average for the previous five years.

    That’s a **** of a lot of people being hit by buses, but consider yourself vindicated.

    just made Strollers point but more aggressively
     
    #10170

  11. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Of course I will wear a mask.
    I didn't say the virus wasn't a threat.
    I didn't say it hasn't caused many, many deaths.
    I didn't say that the government could of handled it all better which would of meant even less deaths.

    I am saying that the figures can't be trusted and those who concentrate on these figures do so to cause maximum criticism to the government.
    Are you attributing all 65000 to covid?
    Do you feel you've got everything right about this virus since you initially dismissed it in March?
     
    #10171
  12. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    31,218
    Likes Received:
    29,376
    Directly and indirectly yes. I know 3 people, including one GP, who have waited over 3 months to get a cancer diagnosis after referral for tests because the NHS had virtually shut down, and in many places still appears to be. If their lives are shortened through lack of timely treatment because we were ‘protecting the NHS’ from being overwhelmed by COVID I would attribute that to COVID and the response to it.
     
    #10172
  13. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    So do you believe lockdown shouldn't have happened?
     
    #10173
  14. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    31,218
    Likes Received:
    29,376
    Lockdown yes, closing the NHS no.

    Back to the same old ****, I think I’ll give it a rest.
     
    #10174
  15. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    71,946
    Likes Received:
    59,273
    It’s not a terribly difficult equation, is it? The government knew how utterly unprepared and under-resourced the NHS was so did literally everything it could to avoid the PR of images like we saw in Italy of hospitals overrun, essentially make it a National Covid Service, even if that meant dumping a massive **** on the care home sector and kicking a huge can down the road in cancers and other illnesses.
     
    #10175
  16. Ninj

    Ninj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,457
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    I think that maybe that a lot of deaths involved people with underlying health issues which potentially would have reduced life span anyway. Covid was the devil that ended some lives a lot earlier.
    As far as masks go. I have hayfever which is listed under the asthma umbrella. There are times when I get breathless very quickly, and have had to use an inhaler for last 5 years. I have found wearing the mask "uncomfortable" in terms of getting breath - however - if wearing one reduces the risk of catching or passing on (never been tested so I could be a carrier) then this is what I will do. At present I am living with y 80 plus year old parents so I will do what I can to protect them as well.
     
    #10176
    rangercol likes this.
  17. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    Groundhog day.........
     
    #10177
  18. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    71,946
    Likes Received:
    59,273
    Now quarantining people returning from Spain after encouraging everyone to **** off on holiday a few weeks ago.

    Guess who’s in Malaga.
     
    #10178
  19. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Exactly.
    Not an easy problem to solve is it?
     
    #10179
  20. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    What is?
     
    #10180

Share This Page