Off Topic Coronavirus

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Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?

Really sorry to hear it, Ubes. Wish the best for him
 
Oops the medical spokeswoman Jenny isn’t used to the way of the political mob. I actually cringed for her when she mentioned ‘6 months’... and like a pack of wolves Sky have manipulated her words. Don’t be surprised if they dump her from the briefing.
 
I’m happy to be called that, I am most days by my wife, sometimes my kids too.

But actually, unlike previous questions I’ve asked about world events, when I was ridiculed, this time, so far no one’s calling me anything.

Only SB has responded to the astonishing reclassification of the disease as no longer an HCID, and he found it odd - he certainly pulls me up when he feels it necessary.

Fear is the greatest way of controlling a population and we’ve been fed fear by the media on this for weeks now, relentlessly.
To be clear I don’t think this is a plot, I think it’s a cock up, the virus itself is not much to be scared of but it’s impact on health services in a very short period of time is, and that is what all the scurrying about is for. It is certainly valid to ask the question whether the response is actually worth it, especially given the economic damage it will inflict (is inflicting) on billions of lives.

I have just found the answer to the key question of how many people who end up on ventilators actually make it. The answer is a very disappointing 50%.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...ve-care-uk-patients-50-per-cent-survival-rate
The next question is, is there any way of telling which patients will benefit from ventilation, and who it would be a waste of time for?

Over 70% of the ICU patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese.
Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?
Bad news mate, best wishes. Even at his age the vast majority pull through.
 
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Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?

Sorry to hear that mate.
 
Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?

Sorry to hear that mate, all the best to you and your family.
 
Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?
I hope that he pulls through Uber
 
Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s.

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?

One thing I will add mate, is that it’s common practice to put in a DNAR (or to at least ask for one) for people of your uncles age. Don’t read too much into it......it’s more to do with what it entails and what it would mean for the patient, rather than that they are expecting to need it.
Anything you wanna ask I’m about to DM or answer on here
 
Costco US are advertising that they will not accept returns on toilet paper, kitchen roll, hand sanitizer, water and Lysol (Dettol), a sure sign that there are no supply chain shortages of these things, and that the twats who have filled their houses with this stuff will have to work through it over the next few years.

I am still pondering the full importance of the 50% death rate for those ventilated. If this is maintained it’s huge for resource use and rationing.

We need a medicine treatment rapidly.

The deputy CMO saying we could be doing this for 6 months is a good thing - should really focus minds as to what the strategy should be. I reckon we will stick to this for 12 weeks and then relax for political and economic reasons.

Very strong rumours that the Chinese are trying to sell us PPE at massively inflated prices. We should buy it because we need it, and then cooperate with everyone else who has been shafted by these ****ers to make the lives of Xi and his cronies as miserable as possible. Nothing against the Chinese people, but the totalitarian tossers who boss them around need sorting.

A long disconnected ramble, but anyone else hoping that we take an individual, community, and societal/national/supra national level rethink of what is really important to us after the crisis is past? It would be a real tragedy if we just go back to where we were before, with no thought as to how we plan for these things in the future, without learning anything, without understanding how fragile the systems we have are, without recognising how connected we are as individuals and communities.
 
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