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  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    As long as you wear a mask walking 3 or 4 yards to your table, you can then take it off as you cant catch covid whilst sitting eating. Just make sure you put it back on if you stand up cos there will be hell otherwise.
     
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    As a mask wearer I am not a health risk for a non mask wearer bob that's the difference. A habitual non mask wearer has more chance of having the disease and transmitting it than others who abide by the rules. Therefore I will protect myself and my family against them by ensuring they keep at a distance - if they then encroach on my space in a manner which endangers me then the dental example still applies ! I also don't know what level of protection a person has if they have had Covid 19 - I guess that this protection would only be for a limited time and would need to be boosted just as the vaccination does. I'm not sure that there is any 'trap' which is being manufactured around the World - this sounds dangerously close to a conspiracy theory - nobody has manufactured this disease - it is real and it is deadly for some people. Doubtless there have been some mistaken responses to it, but what is the alternative - just let it sweep over us and count the dead, and hope you're not one of them ?
     
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    It gives you some idea as to the source of the nasty smell under my nose…
     
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  4. Uber_Hoop

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    Do you go around punching all the smokers?
     
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  5. bobmid

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    If you have covid and wear a mask then youre a health risk for everyone and anyone. If you have covid and dont wear a mask then youre a health risk to everyone and anyone. Just from youre threats of knocking someones teeth out, youre more of a health risk than the average person regardless of mask wearing.
     
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    It's not a case of choosing between wearing of masks and social distancing Uber - you do both. It's like having voles in the garden - individual measures, in isolation, don't work <doh> As for the subject of 'violence' - I am not a violent person but I consider the threat of possibly giving me a life threatening disease through some kind of mistaken idea of defending personal freedom as being a considerably more violent act than the dental operation refered to..
     
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  7. bobmid

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    Youve hit the nail.on the head cologne, its not a case of choosing, that has been taken away from us.
     
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    I am a smoker ! But I also distance myself from non smokers when doing so. The equivalent to an unmasked person coming and breathing potential germs in my direction is for me to deliberately puff out my smoke into the face of a non smoker - which I would never dream of doing. Were I to do so then I would, myself, be deserving of the dental operation refered to.
     
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    This just gets better and better.
     
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    Had we given regard to personal freedoms in the past when regarding public health then we would still have Polio, Smallpox and Diptheria circulating amongst us.
     
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  11. bobmid

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    Would you be ok for a masked person to come close to you and breathe germs near you?
     
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    If I knew that I had Covid I wouldn't go out at all bob ! I wear a mask and I socially distance - I avoid unnecessary contacts. Those who wilfully don't do these things are helping to spread the disease further and are the ones responsible for the prolonging of the crisis we are now in. The example of the dental operation was used to enforce social distancing if all else fails - there is no hate behind it, any more than there would be protecting myself against a rabid animal - it comes under the category of self defence.
     
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  13. colognehornet

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    There is no need under the present circumstances for any stranger, masked or not, to come too close unbidden - I can hear someone well enough from a distance.
     
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    Dysentery still seems to be a problem. :)
     
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    What the bloody hell has gone on in Germany. I looked at figures and it was showing 5-600 deaths a day.
     
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    I think they are all being attacked in the street
     
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    Non mask wearers getting shot!
     
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    The German figures must include secondary smokers and root canal work, surely?
     
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    This is down to a combination of factors Ellers. The testing rate in Germany is much lower than in many other countries. Austria tests 12 times as much as Germany does (per head of population) and the UK 5 times more. So the real figure of German infected people is likely to be much higher than the official figures. There are also very big regional differences within the country - the former East Germany is now being hit much harder than other areas, Bavaria is also very high. These are the regions where the anti vax movement is strongest and where they are most influenced by conspiracy theories of one sort or the other (often having a political background). Germany has a decentralized structure which has been a problem - rules were different for every state which made it confusing as to what was allowed in NRW but not in eg. Lower Saxony. Too little clear communication, too much fake news. Different so called experts saying different things. News coming via Twitter as opposed to over official sources. Homeopathic medicine and the mainstream classical medicine are not very well integrated here with lots of distrust on both sides. The homeopathic scene is obviously sceptical about both masks and vaccinations but is strengthened by many others who are using this for political purposes - mostly from the far right. The anti vax scene is also very radical and sometimes violent here, with attacks upon medical personnel being far to common (550 physical attacks upon vaccination and test centres since the pandemic began). You have had an idea of this from a previous poster from Germany who posted on this forum - unfortunately there are many others like him. It could also be that because Germany had a very low death rate in the first stage of the pandemic, that a bit of arrogance set in at that time. At any rate during the following summer no plans were laid down for a reoccurence of the disease in autumn and winter. The present situation is grim - with the daily death totals being about the same as the UK, France, Italy and Spain combined. But even now you can drive over to the Netherlands without border controls !
     
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    Thanks for that. :emoticon-0148-yes: I was genuinely surprised when I saw the figures.
     
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