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kiwiqpr said:
what do you think @qprbeth
true or scaremongering

Article from the MDPI Vaccines (Swiss medical journal). 4 deaths per 100,000 shots and 16 cases of side effects severe enough to change your life forever per 100,000 shots. That's a 1 in 5,000 chance of either dying or becoming handicapped. https://res.mdpi.com/d_attachment/vaccines/vaccines-09-00693/article_deploy/vaccines-09-00693-v2.pdf…
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Need to read carefully, ( just back from a 12 hour shift at Wembley) but would at this point query their figures of 2-11 deaths per 100,000....and in that excerpt doesn't indicate the number of people who are drastically changed by having Covid.

I would also need to see what the serious side effects that are seen


And also what vaccine are being used. ( Using Pfizer instead of AZ is cutting down the blood clotting problem a bit in young women).

Need to read the article in full...but those things jump out at me.
Will get back to you
 
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Stroller said:
Does anyone on here still use the NHS Covid app, and if you do, would you isolate if you got pinged?
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I never downloaded it, but of course provide name and phone number when required. I would isolate if I, or someone in my household, tested positive, and would be happy to have daily testing if ‘pinged’. Won’t the isolation requirement go on 19 July? They are about to do away with the requirement for school kids I think, as it’s resulted in 375,000, most of whom have not tested positive, currently missing school and the associated issues for parents who also have to isolate. We are going to rely on the vaccines.

There are things I hope we retain though. The Parade, the lovely (apart from ground floor plate glass uniformity of the shops) Regency main street in Leamington has been closed to traffic for the duration to aid social distancing. It’s lovely. Plus the recycling centre (aka the tip) where I’ve just been has operated a booking service and set up proper parking bays which is a vast improvement on the old free for all.
 
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sb_73 said:
I never downloaded it, but of course provide name and phone number when required. I would isolate if I, or someone in my household, tested positive, and would be happy to have daily testing if ‘pinged’. Won’t the isolation requirement go on 19 July? They are about to do away with the requirement for school kids I think, as it’s resulted in 375,000, most of whom have not tested positive, currently missing school and the associated issues for parents who also have to isolate. We are going to rely on the vaccines.

There are things I hope we retain though. The Parade, the lovely (apart from ground floor plate glass uniformity of the shops) Regency main street in Leamington has been closed to traffic for the duration to aid social distancing. It’s lovely. Plus the recycling centre (aka the tip) where I’ve just been has operated a booking service and set up proper parking bays which is a vast improvement on the old free for all.
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I don't think it's clear yet whether the isolation requirement will be scrapped on 19th July, but I think it really should be. It seems to me that, as you say, it's time to rely on the vaccines and stop requiring double-jabbed people with no symptoms to isolate if they've been in the same pub as someone who's tested positive.

Good to get back to live sport yesterday with a trip to the Oval. A bit of inconvenience getting in - with everyone have to demonstrate their vaccination status - but otherwise everything pretty much back to normal.
 
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Ranger4ever said:
I also did not download the app, just provided my contact details on the rare occasion we visited a restaurant.
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I have the app but was a bit put out to be asked to scan it when entering a pub last night, so declined* and we went to the pub next door where there were no such requirements. Is this stuff really necessary any more?

*Actually I pretended to scan it but then realised I'd pointed my phone at the hand sanitiser instead of the scanner. It was only when they asked to see the confirmation on my phone that I flounced off.
 
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I've downloaded it and can't honestly say it's changed my life one way or the other. Never been contacted but whether that's due to luck or that the system is crap, don't know. Haven't, to my knowledge any way, been contacted by any undesirables and can't really say that my information has been passed on to anyone who wants to buy it so that they can sell me what they assure me are the essentials of life or guilt edged get me rich schemes.
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
I've downloaded it and can't honestly say it's changed my life one way or the other. Never been contacted but whether that's due to luck or that the system is crap, don't know. Haven't, to my knowledge any way, been contacted by any undesirables and can't really say that my information has been passed on to anyone who wants to buy it so that they can sell me what they assure me are the essentials of life or guilt edged get me rich schemes.
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‘guilt edged’. Very good.
 
Some neighbours round the back of us are following the Covid rules to the letter by having a party for one of their daughters by the sound of the voices in their garden. I know this because they have been singing, loudly and out of tune, for five hours now. Someone (not us) has been round to ask them to quieten down which they did, briefly, but back up to full volume now.

I don’t really mind, especially after so long being restrained, and it’s a lovely summers evening. But they are so out of tune. Like, really really teeth grindingly so. I’m now pondering whether banning the use of napalm in small amounts in built up areas was such a good idea.
 
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sb_73 said:
Some neighbours round the back of us are following the Covid rules to the letter by having a party for one of their daughters by the sound of the voices in their garden. I know this because they have been singing, loudly and out of tune, for five hours now. Someone (not us) has been round to ask them to quieten down which they did, briefly, but back up to full volume now.

I don’t really mind, especially after so long being restrained, and it’s a lovely summers evening. But they are so out of tune. Like, really really teeth grindingly so. I’m now pondering whether banning the use of napalm in small amounts in built up areas was such a good idea.
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