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The-Tissue-Culture-King said:
Sorry mate, I do know that Beth will inform Admins asap and I only wanted to make their life harder to delete all my my posts. By the way, I do not care about any international games anyway. At the end it will be either Italy or France lifting the cup.
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Nah it's easy really just a couple of clicks.......Nos vemos
 
Steelmonkey said:
My son (18) had his first jag today, and I'm getting my second next week.

We know some people locally who have had both doses, and have still contracted Covid, and been hospitalised with it. Two of them from the same family are really ill. Pretty **** to be thinking you're safe and then get ****ed up....not convinced the vaccines are as great protection against the Delta variant as they were against the previous incarnations of the virus....thoughts, Stan & Beth?
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Which vaccines are you talking about Steels?
 
qprbeth said:
Good evening ButtHuber. I would like to say we had missed you but I won't.

Thank you for your penalty prediction and good bye.
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Morning Beth,

if you keep kicking me out just because you dissent with what I am posting it will just encourage me even more returning over and over again with new Nicknames - no problem, just takes me moments. Since I am an R I should be allowed to post in this forum and here is the deal. I would only post about football, avoid the Corona/Politcs thread and use the Conspiracy thread instead. I guess nobody would be bothered.

Rgds
 
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QPR Oslo said:
Which vaccines are you talking about Steels?
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Personally, I've had AZ as has the missus, and my son Pfizer....I'd be guessing but would assume because of their age that the couple who are both ill have had AZ too as they are quite strict here on giving Pfizer to U40s only and that's a whole other story....

We know of a lady who is in her early 40s who has been refused vaccination 4 or 5 times as she wants Pfizer, not AZ. She's worried about the blood clot risk - her choice I suppose. Anyway, seems in Scotland you don't have a choice as to what they put in to your own body. She's written to Health Secretary, Sturgeon, Chief Medical Officer and a couple of other high placed officials, and she's just getting palmed off with them saying that due to her age she can only have AZ. What's galling is they are still throwing away Pfizer doses at the end of each day as it expires so quickly, and yesterday the NI health board said that they were giving Pfizer out to all age groups!
 
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Steelmonkey said:
My son (18) had his first jag today, and I'm getting my second next week.

We know some people locally who have had both doses, and have still contracted Covid, and been hospitalised with it. Two of them from the same family are really ill. Pretty **** to be thinking you're safe and then get ****ed up....not convinced the vaccines are as great protection against the Delta variant as they were against the previous incarnations of the virus....thoughts, Stan & Beth?
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Hi Steel, this is what has recently been released


Last week, an analysis by the Public Health England (PHE) showed that vaccines made by Pfizer Inc and AstraZeneca offer high protection of more than 90% against hospitalization from the Delta variant.

So they are talking about a double doses plus 2 weeks later, for the full effect ...so there is a 90% reduction in hospitalisations

The word hospitalisations is the key word. There is increasing evidence that the delta and kappa variants can infect people who are immunised making them ill, and also infectious. But the vaccines both seem to decrease hospitilisations and so also death massively. Which is my big take from this ....it will protect me from dying

It is still advisable to get the vaccine, but also take care too, as the new variants are still killers.
 
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Steelmonkey said:
Personally, I've had AZ as has the missus, and my son Pfizer....I'd be guessing but would assume because of their age that the couple who are both ill have had AZ too as they are quite strict here on giving Pfizer to U40s only and that's a whole other story....

We know of a lady who is in her early 40s who has been refused vaccination 4 or 5 times as she wants Pfizer, not AZ. She's worried about the blood clot risk - her choice I suppose. Anyway, seems in Scotland you don't have a choice as to what they put in to your own body. She's written to Health Secretary, Sturgeon, Chief Medical Officer and a couple of other high placed officials, and she's just getting palmed off with them saying that due to her age she can only have AZ. What's galling is they are still throwing away Pfizer doses at the end of each day as it expires so quickly, and yesterday the NI health board said that they were giving Pfizer out to all age groups!
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Regardless of age Pfizer is the only vaccine for new Zealand
 
qprbeth said:
Hi Steel, this is what has recently been released


Last week, an analysis by the Public Health England (PHE) showed that vaccines made by Pfizer Inc and AstraZeneca offer high protection of more than 90% against hospitalization from the Delta variant.

So they are talking about a double doses plus 2 weeks later, for the full effect ...so there is a 90% reduction in hospitalisations

The word hospitalisations is the key word. There is increasing evidence that the delta and kappa variants can infect people who are immunised making them ill, and also infectious. But the vaccines both seem to decrease hospitilisations and so also death massively. Which is my big take from this ....it will protect me from dying

It is still advisable to get the vaccine, but also take care too, as the new variants are still killers.
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Hopefully the hospitalisation rate remains low. I’m hearing a lot of admittedly anecdotal, but also quite a few first hand, stories of double jabbed people getting the virus. Actually I’m hearing about many more people getting it than in the previous waves. Odd.
 
sb_73 said:
Hopefully the hospitalisation rate remains low. I’m hearing a lot of admittedly anecdotal, but also quite a few first hand, stories of double jabbed people getting the virus. Actually I’m hearing about many more people getting it than in the previous waves. Odd.
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Isn't the delta variant a double mutation in the spike protein Stan.

I think it is not as quickly recognised by the spike protein vaccines.

Not ideal.. but no indication of a rise in hospitalitions yet. ....
But if the delta mutates again....I would begin to worry a bit
 
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what do you think @qprbeth
true or scaremongering

Article from the MDPI Vaccines (Swiss medical journal). 4 deaths per 100,000 shots and 16 cases of side effects severe enough to change your life forever per 100,000 shots. That's a 1 in 5,000 chance of either dying or becoming handicapped. https://res.mdpi.com/d_attachment/vaccines/vaccines-09-00693/article_deploy/vaccines-09-00693-v2.pdf…
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The new health secretary says the restrictions must end on the 19th and that we must learn to live with it. (Or not as the unfortunate case may be).
If thats the angle then why not end retrictions now or tomorrow? I understand more people will be vaccinated by then but every single person me and the Mrs know (26 people at the last count) who at present are covid positive have either had 1 or both jabs. Quite bizarre really.
 
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