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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.
The worst case scenarios published last October, I think, anticipated a second wave, but not a more transmissible variant. These estimates gave 500 daily deaths until March. As a worst case.
Oh ****! Keep safe!
If these daily deaths don't persuade people to take this thing seriously, nothing will.
I would add that these deaths are not in the last 24hrs. These are the ones that have now been recorded. probably most of them died over Christmas (or last 3 weeks). offices were shut at that time so there will be a build up. expect more like this. Whats worse is hospitals have more people in them now than 3 weeks ago. not good.
You'll like this Bob, but I'm sure Ellers will have some quip to say he's boring now...
Could any of our resident experts clarify? Reducing the severity of the illness is a welcome step forward, but if the vaccines don't reduce transmission we're a long way from beating the virus.
From what I understand of what Beth has written, once vaccinated you can still be a carrier/transmitter of the virus, but for a much reduced length of time (a couple of days as opposed to ten to fourteen) - thus reducing the risk of passing on the infection.
That is what I believe Steel. The argument was far more convincing before the new variant appeared, but still holds true.
You get infected...and for the time before your "primed by vaccination immune system" gets a grip you are still infectious... But that time will be shorter and the viral load less than in a person who has not been vaccinated.
Also the more of us who are vaccinated, the more of us who will be "diluting the passage of the virus through the population.
So it is still good..and it is not a quick fix...but it is the road towards a future when we can begin to live our old lives
Seems the NHS is teetering on the brink.
Scary times and warnings that there's a lot more people out and about compared to the last lockdown.
I don't doubt the seriousness of this situation Col, but they say this every year about the NHS. Boys and wolves come to mind.
He is. I don't even bother watching. He started off okay and quite funny but ended up being the usual type. I am sure some will enjoy it though?
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Strangely Stroller I just got an email from Oslo Council now informing about the upcoming vaccination, if I'm there. They do warn you can still transmit the virus after vaccination and must continue to follow infection protection regulations.
We’ve had a pitifully low capacity for some time (not getting political but yanno).
They’ve increased the number of beds considerably I believe with that new capacity now being tested to the max. The difficult bit is increasing the number of people to staff those extra beds so you’re stretching their hours and/or the number of patients they’re covering at any one time while doing more stressful and labour-intensive work than would usually be the case while wearing PPE. Also they aren’t robots so the toll on their mental health after a year of this will be horrendous.
But we can clap on a Thursday again now at least.
The difference is this year we are carrying out little or no "other," operations or treatment s except Covid.
In some hospitals most beds are full of Covid patients
Add in to that how the bed capacity has been being reduced for economic reasons over the last 10-15 years...
We have therefore converted a number of other wards, and theatres into Covid wards and called in all trained doctors and nurses..
Add into that our staff are exhausted
This is different and no this is not exaggeration...this is not a hoax.
1400 deaths in a single day...get your heads around that.... With 60, 000 new positives a day...this is not going to magically disappear.
Is that 1400 covid deaths in addition to the approx 1700 that die every day?
Can someone please explain this to me? PHE notifications of infectious diseases, says 37 cases of covid 19 across England and Wales in the last 6 weeks.
The excess deaths are likely to be pretty ****ing terrible if people are having operations cancelled and ambulances are taking longer to get to heart attacks and the like on top of 1400 Covid deaths.
So on the day of 1400 covid deaths, were there approx 3000 deaths in the country?