FFS... wearing masks are dangerous for healthy people...have you ever been in a hospital, an operating theatre. Everyone there wears masks......none of those people die I have been part of a flu vaccine trial that has developed a vaccine in 18 months. That vaccine was for a flu virus that was no where near as deadly as Covid19, and so the pressure was not on us to produce quite as fast. You yourself state flu vaccines are one year out of date...think about what you have said Butthuber. They can therefore only be about 2 years downstream of the initial event...not 8 years. I have not swallowed the blue pill. I am just a scientist who worked in the field of diagnostic molecular biology and worked less than 30 foot from the Oxford Vaccine laboratory. I am also a patient volunteer on the covid19 vaccine study
Well Beth, mouth and nose protector - The mask has these consequences for healthy people There is a new study where experts used two types of face masks for their examination - surgical masks and so-called FFP2 masks, which are mainly used by medical personnel. The measurements were carried out using so-called spiroergometry, in which patients, or in this case the test subjects, put themselves under physical strain on a stationary bicycle, a so-called ergometer, or a treadmill. The subjects were examined without a mask, with surgical masks and with FFP2 masks. The masks therefore affect breathing, especially the volume and the highest possible speed of air exhaled. The maximum possible force on the ergometer was significantly reduced. A faster acidification of the blood during exertion was registered in the metabolism. In addition, the participants used questionnaires to assess their subjective sensation, which also showed a considerable impairment of their well-being. Those masks are especially dangerous for children and elderly people but do also have very negative effects for healthy people and they do not stop the virus. Again, developing, approving and introducing a new vaccine takes 8 years which is common knowledge. This time it is even going to change the RNA which has never happened before. That is not science that is a criminal act.
No...the best best hypothesis is that it was caused by the administration of prophylatic drug, pyridostigmine. This would temporal block the effect of the cholinergic nerve gases. Unfortunately the drug was used/ given rather freely and began to mess up the cholinergic nervous system, leaving some of the troops with fatigue, tiredness and depression
You are quoting an experiment in which subjects are put under considerable strain...you say so yourself. That is an extreme experiment, not real life. Answer me why doctors whowwho masks in theatre or on wards are ok if it can kill them. The government does not insist children and toddlers do not wear masks. Finally.. if you are so insistent it takes 8 years to develop a vaccine, why do you YOURSELF say that the flu vaccines we get eachaeach year areaare a year out of date... Shouldn't they be at least 8 years out of date. Sorry ButtHuber, this is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel..
Butt...please...stay off this thread. I am all for sensible debate, but not your quite frankly weird stuff. Out of respect for a fellow R on our forum i will leave it like that, but I am sure I am not the only one who would be more robust in our replies if it was not for the fact that you are a long standing poster and fellow hoop. Just tone it down a little if you can
Sorry mate but truth can never be silenced. It is nothing personal between myself and any other posters (at least not from my side).
There will be a rise in civil unrest and anarchy particularly post-September 2020. Nevertheless, these times have been orchestrated by a sinister group. The entire reason for the lockdown was because of the forecast that 3 million would die from COVID-19, which meant that there would not be enough bed spaces in hospitals. This is the chart put out to justify the lockdown. Well, the hospitals were empty and the excuse for the lockdown was nonsense, particularly when applied nationwide. But ever since, these lockdowns no longer talk about a shortage of bed space to justify them. Now, it is just a prerogative of state governors and it has been abused for political purposes. https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Flatening-the-Curve.jpg This virus has been drastically manipulated for political purposes and nobody involved will ever admit that they were wrong. The lockdowns will result in protests and civil unrest. We have the opportunity to make a difference. We cannot change the shift of the financial capital from the United States to China. Nevertheless, that does not mean we will starve to death and be reduced to eat bugs despite the fact that such a trend is promoted by the United Nations and this sinister consortium. Yes @YorkshireHoopster, you can hold on to that prediction.
ButtHuber you have hijacked this thread. I have helped you do this by arguing with you. So I am leaving this thread to you and your conspiracy theories. I sincerely hope that you and yours are not and are never the affected by this imaginary virus.... But please be measured in what you say...there are people on this thread who have lost loved ones to Covid19. There are people who have been on the front line during the pandemic, working in the NHS and seeing people ill and desperately scared in front of them. There are people who have had physical and mental health problems exacerbated during the pandemic that you deny. So please be considerate
Beth sorry to hear that you are leaving this thread but that is your decision. There are plenty other topics here and you will certainly the right one for you. I guess there are a lot more people that do have physical and mental health problems because of the measures that have been taken and that should raise more concern. The consequences for the lockdown will have a devastating effect for all of us. But since I do not mean to offend people about Covid-19 and the reaction here was mainly negative I will stop commenting. It´s a pity that it seems so hard to exchange different information in a straight forward way.
Now now you two Some of your posts have been very interesting and informative Both of you should keep going
Great. We'll remember that. Can you tell us who you believe this sinister group is. We don't want to be directed to your sources, we're all capable of doing our own research. I am asking you who you believe them to b. Then tell us why - what is the purpose behind it all. Again your belief only please.
I would be interested to know who you are refering to by "...we...". First of all you will have to open up a new topic (you may call it conspiracy theory) as I will not write under the Corona Thread.
Beware of groups which claim to be the only ones who know the real truth - normally this means trouble, we have seen this over and over again throughout history !
You won’t be laughing when you’re selling your firstborn for the last ticket on Butthuber and I’s ship to Venus when the earth is uninhabitable due to 5G, mate.
