Off Topic COP 26

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Honest question. What is the biggest cause (not country) of the problem?

Cars?
Factories?
Energy production?

Honest question?
 
Darren Peacock's Ponytail said:
I agree but where are they all made?
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Indeed that’s where I was going towards really.

That and possibly even good production and waste: I mean we literally are eating as a world population 4 times as much meat and processed foods was we where 25 years ago and when you multiply that but the increase in world population then that must contribute.

I do believe we have a serious problem here. I would welcome life changing actions.
 
Geordieginola said:
Ok I’ve had a bit of a joke in my last two messages so now for some really ****.

@Darren Peacock's Ponytail is correct China and America are the ones who make this work or not in reality.

The ratio you stated above per person is a damning statistic but when you factor in population then it maybe is irrelevant.

When you look at the graph you posted it does look like America is pulling its weight but I am surprised at Australia given they have the sun which could generate the energy they need.

It makes me wonder how on Earth they are the highest polluters when they don’t have a large population?
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Australia has a large reliance on fossil fuels ie coal as it has a large coal industry which supports a lot of jobs. Australian politicians are too busy looking short term and don’t want to take on the potentially unpopular task of moving away from coal usage.

Yes, China and the USA are integral in addressing the problem but the rest of the World can’t afford to wait for them to get on board.
 
Geordieginola said:
It’s quite scary when you think about it.

I do wonder whether it’s irreversible.
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My understanding is that it is. But it needs action and brave politicians. I doubt whether the World’s politicians are brave enough or far sighted enough to take the action needed.

On a very simple level think of all the extreme weather incidents that have been reported in say the last 12 months alone. It’s not a coincidence, it’s a consequence.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/environment/953574/worlds-most-extreme-weather-events-2021
 
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The #Cans Master said:
My understanding is that it is. But it needs action and brave politicians. I doubt whether the World’s politicians are brave enough or far sighted enough to take the action needed.

On a very simple level think of all the extreme weather incidents that have been reported in say the last 12 months alone. It’s not a coincidence, it’s a consequence.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/environment/953574/worlds-most-extreme-weather-events-2021
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The problem is that for most politicians (especially in populist governments) that making big changes is political suicide. Therefore the soundbites will be uttered and in the background the donors in the traditionally big money businesses that focus on profit over all else will continue to do what they've done for decades. Only when action on climate change becomes more of a vote winner than policies that sound good but don't have substance or backing will action be taken by governments.
 
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Maximin Effort said:
The problem is that for most politicians (especially in populist governments) that making big changes is political suicide. Therefore the soundbites will be uttered and in the background the donors in the traditionally big money businesses that focus on profit over all else will continue to do what they've done for decades. Only when action on climate change becomes more of a vote winner than policies that sound good but don't have substance or backing will action be taken by governments.
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Spot on mate your quite right.

There is no money to be made in fixing climate change. So someone else can deal with it.
 
Australia is one of the worst CO2 producers on planet earth, their coal industry is massive and lobbies a lot.
 
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So 49% due to Agri and heat and electric.

I understand the heat and electric element.

But I can’t get my head around the agriculture side. Unless of course it extends to the post animal/crop production stage.
 
Geordieginola said:
But I can’t get my head around the agriculture side. Unless of course it extends to the post animal/crop production stage.
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There are lies, damn lies and statistics...
My industry (agriculture) is being made the scapegoat here and there is **** all I can do about it!
I could go into detail and bore you with facts and figures as to how agriculture is a big carbon sequester but it's not very interesting and I can't be arsed to be honest!
 
Wuffler said:
There are lies, damn lies and statistics...
My industry (agriculture) is being made the scapegoat here and there is **** all I can do about it!
I could go into detail and bore you with facts and figures as to how agriculture is a big carbon sequester but it's not very interesting and I can't be arsed to be honest!
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Isn't a lot of that percentage made up by change of land use? Not so much the agricultural practices themselves, but deforestation in parts of the world to make way for cattle ranches?
 
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