Off Topic Common Core yikes

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My son is frequently in tears doing maths at home. Common core has some really stupid ideas.

I don't even understand their multiplication. Some weird 3d grid thing they're supposed to do.

I'll frequently say "look it's easy... Just do this..." and show him the easy way to do things and he'll say that we're not allowed to do it that way. The teachers tell the kids that if parents show them a different way they are to ignore the advice. Its crazy.


Also. Grades are given purely on answers (the teachers don't even look at how kids derived the answers... So how do they know if kids are doing common core or the way parents taught them).

When I was in school HOW you got your answer was more important than the answer. If you understood the concept but accidentally put wrong number down you still got most of the credit. Now its "we don't have time to look at what you did, just show us the answer".

Absolutely this ^

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

Yeah, but it's all ok, cos at the end of the day you just use a calculator, don't you...

Sadly, some think that that's a valid excuse.

I'm all for calculators being used in tests (that arn't directly teaching basic arithmatic). I think it's silly not to use a calculator (unless you're testing add/subtract/multiply/divide)

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

I'm all for calculators being used in tests (that arn't directly teaching basic arithmatic). I think it's silly not to use a calculator (unless you're testing add/subtract/multiply/divide)

I agree, but it doesn't help you really understand mathematics, what's going on, or even just getting a concept of it. It's just pressing buttons to get an answer.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

i agree. calculators should be banned at least unitl 13/14

kids should be taught how to carry the one and do the maths and the method is whats tested. thats the whole point of asking the same question 5 different ways to test understanding

 

[Neither here or there]

Just imagine if they started to bring this type of counting into schools.

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Its pretty neat alternative to the way we would be used to.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Makes you wonder how these things get introduced, when anyone with an iota of common sense can see they're a spectacularly stupid idea.

Ironically it is the Bill Gates foundation that has bankrolled this !!!

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Just imagine if they started to bring this type of counting into schools.

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Its pretty neat alternative to the way we would be used to.

try doing that in your head though like the way we do a lot of snap calculations.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Just imagine if they started to bring this type of counting into schools.

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Its pretty neat alternative to the way we would be used to.

That's really clever

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

That's really clever

Notice how all his examples start with 1,2 or 3 though.

If you did 77×88 with that method it would be a headache counting the intersections and drawing the lines.

As long as there are no digits greater than 4 or 5 it is a pretty cool looking trick. (not that it isn't quicker to calculate the traditional way)

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Fluoride (All 43 human studies finding associations between fluoride and reduced IQ) and Common Core, wtf are they doing to kids? It's literally enough reason to up sticks and move elsewhere.

One might think this dumbing down is intentional

 

[saintanton]

Fluoride (All 43 human studies finding associations between fluoride and reduced IQ) and Common Core, wtf are they doing to kids? It's literally enough reason to up sticks and move elsewhere.

One might think this dumbing down is intentional

The aliens want to turn us all into mindless herd-beasts. <0k>
Not far to go with most of us.

 

[jenners04]

When I was in school HOW you got your answer was more important than the answer. If you understood the concept but accidentally put wrong number down you still got most of the credit. Now its "we don't have time to look at what you did, just show us the answer".

i used to get a bollocking off my maths teacher as i didn't show my workings out lol, did it in my head, he said to me great you can do that but an examiner will mark you down for it the ****

suppose i have all this weird fecking way of doing things to come then as mine are only 5 and 8.

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

i used to get a bollocking off my maths teacher as i didn't show my workings out lol, did it in my head, he said to me great you can do that but an examiner will mark you down for it the ****

suppose i have all this weird fecking way of doing things to come then as mine are only 5 and 8.

This is in the US. Afaik it's not infiltrated the UK...yet.

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

This is in the US. Afaik it's not infiltrated the UK...yet.

Probably won't be in US much longer either. Very unpopular.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Notice how all his examples start with 1,2 or 3 though.

If you did 77×88 with that method it would be a headache counting the intersections and drawing the lines.

As long as there are no digits greater than 4 or 5 it is a pretty cool looking trick. (not that it isn't quicker to calculate the traditional way)

Yes I agree.

It's a neat little visual though and actually quite fun to show children other ways of working with numbers.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

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Those were the days !

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

The aliens want to turn us all into mindless herd-beasts. <0k>
Not far to go with most of us.

Ain't that the truth Lad

You're close, mindless drones for the corporate world, a world without social reform.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

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Those were the days !

I got one of those for the kids They don't start till 7 here so essentially they are home schooled till then though the creches do educate them but it's more social activity and coordination, writing practice and most importantly no pressure on 4 and 5 year olds like back home.
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[BBFs Unpopular View]

This is in the US. Afaik it's not infiltrated the UK...yet.

The UK and Ireland suffer different problems with education imo. That whole league table for schools is a disaster.

All the best colleges are the best, why, they only admit the best students, that's the only reason they are the best.
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[moreinjuredthanowen]

Fluoride (All 43 human studies finding associations between fluoride and reduced IQ) and Common Core, wtf are they doing to kids? It's literally enough reason to up sticks and move elsewhere.

One might think this dumbing down is intentional

add iphones and ear pieces to this mix and we are one step form the matrix.

if you go on a public transport you'll see the worker drones plugged into their isolation boxes shuffling off then work and never talking to each other. Ideal oligarchical society has nearly been created. if the generations coming up enough free broadband and geordie shore to watch and they'll be your drones.

I am in a place of work where when i got to canteen i now see about 20% using free guest wifi or their own signal to wathc tv at lunch with head phones in Or the older ones reading a book. they are all isolating themselves away form anyone else.. make no mates at work types. then of course there prob another 20% sitting at thier desk eating.. again isolated from rest of staff.

no networking going on there...