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humanbeingincroydon said:
Somewhere on Twitter, somebody's raging about the club having the best wages-to-turnover ratio that pales next to how much of their revenue Palace and Bournemouth are throwing off a cliff just to keep their heads above water...
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I agree. There is an optimal level and being too high is stupid and too low is too cautious. This (if accurate) is a couple of years old, so may be different now. Probably during our complete withdrawal from the transfer market
 
SpursDisciple said:
I agree. There is an optimal level and being too high is stupid and too low is too cautious. This (if accurate) is a couple of years old, so may be different now. Probably during our complete withdrawal from the transfer market
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It's wages-to-revenue, so transfer spend doesn't factor into that

There's two obvious issues with those figures at present
i.) It fails to take into account how Spurs contracts have significant bonuses, so while players aren't making £100k+ a week upfront the bonuses go some way to covering the distance, basically we're offering the carrot rather than the stick
ii.) Since then we have jacked up the wages of Son, Dele and Toby while Ndombele and Lo Celso came in with wages of £120k and £100k respectively
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
It's wages-to-revenue, so transfer spend doesn't factor into that

There's two obvious issues with those figures at present
i.) It fails to take into account how Spurs contracts have significant bonuses, so while players aren't making £100k+ a week upfront the bonuses go some way to covering the distance, basically we're offering the carrot rather than the stick
ii.) Since then we have jacked up the wages of Son, Dele and Toby while Ndombele and Lo Celso came in with wages of £120k and £100k respectively
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All true. Although if you don't buy, you don't pay wages. For the rest I did say I wonder what today's values would be. I want us to be prudent, but up to date values would throw some light on whether we are overly cautious.
 
SpursDisciple said:
All true. Although if you don't buy, you don't pay wages. For the rest I did say I wonder what today's values would be. I want us to be prudent, but up to date values would throw some light on whether we are overly cautious.
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The thing that left me utterly flabbergasted earlier this season (I think it was late September/early October) was the Lunatic Fringe kvetching because we're paying Ndombele £120k right out of the gate

So when we're not spending whatever arbitrary figure they have in their heads they whine and complain...but when we are spending whatever arbitrary figure they have in their heads, they whine and complain? What the hell do they actually want?
 
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...meanwhile, we also got the most Chelsea reply of all time
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I think I mentioned it before, but it's probably worth mentioning again

There's a theory that's done the round a few times on r/coys that Levy's plan isn't for Steptonho to lead the club in the long-term but to serve as a bridging gap between Poch leaving and Joao Sacramento stepping into the dugout to be our next long-term manager - and Luis Campos is seen as the missing piece of that jigsaw, a belief which is based on what a cursory glance at their respective employment histories reveals

July 2013 - Campos becomes Sports Coordinator at Monaco
July 2014 - Sacramento becomes scout at Monaco
August 2014 - Campos becomes Technical Director at Monaco
June 2016 - Campos leaves Monaco
January 2017 - Sacramento becomes AssMan at Lille
July 2017 - Campos becomes Sporting Director at Lille
November 2019 - Sacramento becomes AssMan at Spurs
May 2020 - Campos formally asks to leave Lille

Of course, there's another reason to believe this: not only has this exact scenario taken place under Levy's watch in the past, with Martin Jol shuffling up the bench when a sudden outbreak of common sense saw Jacques Santini jettisoned in record time, but the club have certainly done so in the past when Jimmy Anderson was replaced by some bloke on our coaching staff named Bill Nicholson who I'm sure did an okay job when he got the nod
 
KingHotspur said:
Serge Aurier has broke lockdown rules yet again :angry:
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He got a haircut at his own house.
Given the way that people have acted over the last week, I'm not that bothered.
It's a bit stupid, but everyone seems to be returning to normal anyway, so we'll all be ****ed again soon.
 
The problem I foresee with us getting this Campos guy is that as usual...all his potential and past achievements will for some reason go to **** at Spurs

sorry but I have zero faith in anyone seeing out their job to their full potential with Levy at the helm
 
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...but, of course, one subset just have to be miserable, don't they?
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Nowt to do with being miserable

Alli has been dogshit...looks like people have forgotten how **** this guy has been...not everyone...but some. One of the ones I’d consider selling to bump up our coffers for the manager to buy someone capable in his position
 
Spurlock said:
The problem I foresee with us getting this Campos guy is that as usual...all his potential and past achievements will for some reason go to **** at Spurs

sorry but I have zero faith in anyone seeing out their job to their full potential with Levy at the helm
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It's worth looking back at our track records with DoFs to see why they failed

Frank Arnesen - he didn't fail, simple as that. True there was a cockup at the start when Arnesen said Martin Jol should be our manager, only for Levy to get cold feet and bring in Jacques Santini as coach with Jol as his assistant just so he could say he hired a Big Name, but Arnesen's brief was simple and he stuck to it: sign young, English talent either from lower division clubs or teams lower in the pecking order who would develop at the club, and that's exactly what happened with Carrick and Defoe - and it has to be said the one part of the system that wasn't working was the manager, as Santini was being a stubborn fool freezing out the likes of Carrick for no logical reason, yet once Jol was in the dugout the system worked perfectly, with Lennon, Huddlestone and Jenas being added to prove Arnesen knew his brief plus some smart signings to get the most out of the younger players such as Edgar Davids...and then Arnesen got tapped-up by the Chavs and we moved on to the next name on the list

Damien Comolli - he didn't so much fail as he went rogue against Martin Jol, because he wanted to work with Juande Ramos and was going out of his way to undermine Jol at every turn. What was most damning was he clearly couldn't follow instructions, the most obvious examples being Jol asking for him to find a DM so instead he signed attacking midfielder Kevin-Prince Boateng, and when he gave the instruction to look for a striker in the expectation that both Jermain Defoe and Mido would leave due to the Keane/Berbatov partnership being clearly first-choice so he sold Mido and then pissed away £16.5m on Barren Dent while Defoe remained at the club - yet when he got his wish and was working with Ramos he proved to be useless, as Levy was the one pushing for Modric to come in (and was also pushing for Arshavin) while Comolli was bringing in David Bentley for £15m. Now there is certainly reason to say that Levy should have stepped in when it became clear that Comolli was acting against Jol's wishes, which he did initially when supporting Jol's request to sign Berbatov in 2006, but he failed to support Jol the following summer when Comolli continues to play silly buggers

Franco Baldini - he simply didn't understand his brief at all, to the point where he came across as someone playing Football Manager for the first time. For the most obvious example of this, at the start of the summer window our our options in the attacking trio were Bale, Lennon, Townsend, Sigurdsson and Dempsey, and assuming that Bale would be spirited away to the Santiago Burgerbun what he should have done was bring in a quality like-for-like replacement while also looking for a potential upgrade for Demsey. So what did he do? Bring in Eriksen, Lamela and Chadli (with Joao Moutinho and Willian missed out on for various third party/gazumping reasons respectively) that meant we had six players vying for three starting spots, and similar can be said for central midfield with him bringing in Capoue and Paulinho when we already had Sandro and Dembele in place, meaning that every week there were at least five players who should be starting who weren't in the starting xi - and it looked even worse considering that, at the time, the club were pushing for youth to be a big part of the next few years with Walker and Townsend the obvious examples of this while Tom Carroll was also expected to join them. The thing is that, as Baldini was appointed in June 2013, it's actually hard to hold Levy responsible for that summer being such a ****up because while he can be blamed for Comolli going rogue as he had plenty of time to see what was going on but failed to act and ultimately sided with Comolli (which worked out so well, didn't it?) in Baldini's case there really wasn't time to see what was going wrong as a mere eight weeks passed between his appointment and the season starting - or to put it another way, while Comolli was like the Tenerife airport disaster where the disaster was unfolding in slow motion yet somehow nobody seemed to be capable of actually stopping it, but in Baldini's case it was like the Hindenburg because the disaster happened so suddenly that by the time anyone noticed it was going wrong it was already too late and the only hope was to try and salvage something from the wreckage
 
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